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Old 05-15-20, 10:50 AM
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In the words of Grucho Marx, "Why a duck?" Looks like you have a duck in a viaduct.

Excellent horizon views, the Central Valley has some really dramatic clouds sometimes. Do you have a destination? If you like the Central Valley, you'll love the Carizzo Plain.

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carrizo plain national monument is waay underrated and a must see at the extreme southern end of californiaís central valley.
if you can swing it, iíd recommend riding 32ís or larger there. having said that, iíve ridden 28ís and even 23ís there and gotten away with it (with some stretches of walking).
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Are you wearing that enormous backpack while riding that loaded bike? That can't be comfortable.
Youíre not the first to say that, on the forum here. But really, if it was all that uncomfortable, wouldnít I find something else? 🤔😉 Itís not that heavy, and besides, that which does not kill us, serves to make us stronger. 😁😉
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Hate to be the one to tell you, but you have just toured all of the very worst parts of CA. On either side of you, you have the Sierras and the Pacific Ocean, and to the north is also very nice. I would say you can't go wrong at this point. My unsolicited advice would be, to avoid the Bay Area if possible, and find a way to the coast or to the (real) mountains ASAP.
Actually, the Bay Area is where Iím headed, at least for awhile. I kinda like it there, at least certain parts. 🙂 The first time I came out West, several years ago now, I hitchhiked and got a ride from Chicago to Eureka. I ended up around Palo Alto, right by Stanford University, and loved that area. 😎

Iím sure things have changed in ways, but itís probably still the same place anyways. 🤔😁😉

In the back of my mind, I still want to check out Sacramento. They made it the state capitol for some reason or another. 🤔😉
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The peninsula is gorgeous, would like to live there some time, when my finances allow.

Might actually be a good time to visit with the reduced traffic, especially if you know your way around up there.
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Well, I made it to Ulmar alive, and even got a pic of the Altamont landfill sign, going by. 😁😎😁 Iím pretty sure thatís the only sign up there, letting you know where you are (kinda). 🤔😉

Honestly, I have no idea if this is the same Altamont made (in)famous by the Stones & Angels, back in the day, but I figured I better grab a pic, in case it is. 🤔😉 And a couple bonus pics, coming up to these little mountains.


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Yep, same place. There is a very excellent documentary that was made about the concert, trailer gives you some flavor. Those roads had 300,000 people hippies packed onto them, mostly in VW buses, as you'll see in the film. Ooga Booga might like it, it's in the Criterion Collection.




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Originally Posted by Lemond1985 View Post
Yep, same place.
Sweet, Iíll watch the vids after I charge my batteries someplace. 👍 See what I meant? I woulda had to kick myself hard, if I went right by, and didnít get a pic. 😲🙄😉

I actually did a class report, in 11th (?) grade journalism, about the Stones, and got an A+ on it. 😎
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Full documentary:

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yeah...gimme shelter is a must see for music documentaries.
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yeah...gimme shelter is a must see for music documentaries.
And there ya have it, folks, another consumer opinion. 😁😉 I guess I was either 8 or 9 when that happened, so itís really more my older siblingsí generation, than mine. 🤔

Welp, I got to Livermore last night, where you can still buy a quart of chocolate milk, lol, and I got to Pleasenton this morning, where Iím now having coffee. 😎 Looks like 10-20 miles now, to San Jose.👍

Oh yeah, back on the topic of critters, I had a skunk walk up pretty close this morning, as I was having breakfast. 😲🙄 They have pretty bad eyesight, I guess, and this one was just walking up the path, that I happened to be next to, leaning on a fence. I said ďHi, skunk.Ē, and he just stopped, then eventually turned around to go the other way. He lifted his tail, but I donít think he really sprayed, just wanted to warn me, I guess. 😉
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Just a friendly warning, eh?

Speaking of hazards in that area, beware of this one, a little further north. That and the whole "Hotel California" thing, waking you up in the middle of the night, just to hear them say, etc. I hate when that happens.

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Ha! I saw Lodi on the map, and remembered Janis Joplinís version of the song. One of my aunts wore that one out, back in the 70s. 🙄

And the thing about the Hotel California is, itís still better than the Hotel Colorado or Hotel Arizona. 🤔😁😉 At least the Specific Ocean is close enough to jump into, when you get hot. 😁
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If you are in Livermore, you probably noticed Mt. Diablo. I used to ride up there at least once a week when I lived in Walnut Creek. 3800 feet to the top. It's a state park, you can camp there IIRC. Awesome climb.
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Slept up there last night, but now Iím charging my phone & batteries in Pleasanton. But that gave me the chance to watch Gimme Shelter. 👍 Hard to believe, that was almost 50 years ago. 🤔
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There was some great footage in "Gimme Shelter" of the hippies, and the bikers too. It was a complete culture clash. The Stones thought they were just hiring security for a free concert. The free concert in London went off without a hitch, why not the US? They were wrong. They found out the hard way that people in the US were nowhere near as civilized as they were in London (back then anyway).

I noticed that the film has some of the best footage I have ever seen of people tripping very hard, taking their clothes off, etc. I wonder what ever happened to most of these people, like the naked fat girl who kept trying to get on stage? There were a few children in attendance there too, I don't think CPS had near the power back then, that they have now.
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There were dozens of SR-71 airframes when the plane was retired; they ended up in air museums all over the place
We have one here in town.
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That was the main gist of my intended humor, lol. 😁 I wanted to post something cool like ďAttention all planets of the Solar Federation, we have assumed control!Ē, but thatís too long for a thread title. 😁😎😉
How about "Calling Occupants"? by the Carpenters.

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How about "Calling Occupants"? by the Carpenters.

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That could work too, that was a cool song. 👍

I think I made it through Fremont finally, and into Milpitas. I dunno if the Silly-Con Valley has boundaries, but Iíve passed Western Digital, Cisco, and SanDisk this morning, among many others. And it rained here most of the morning. 🙄

Right before entering Fremont, still in the mountains yesterday, I had a scary moment. Thereís a narrow bridge at the top of a hill, and just as I got to the top, there was a STRONG gust of wind, that pretty much stopped me. Now mind you, I was already pretty darn tired, so even standing on the pedal, I didnít have tons of extra energy. It was probably about 5 seconds, but it felt like about 5 minutes, that I was just frozen there, trying to pedal on up the last 5 feet, but unable to do so. 😲😟 To make matters worse, I realized there was a string of cars behind me, just watching to see if Iíd make it. 🙄 Well, Iím here writing this, so yes, I made it. 😁😉 That was weird as heck though, and I hope I never have to do it again. For awhile, at least. 😁
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Well, I didnít even know Leviís had a stadium, but there it is, anyways. 🤔😁 And this other place just fits this thread perfectly, hmmm? 😁😉

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There was some great footage in "Gimme Shelter" of the hippies, and the bikers too. It was a complete culture clash. The Stones thought they were just hiring security for a free concert. The free concert in London went off without a hitch, why not the US? They were wrong. They found out the hard way that people in the US were nowhere near as civilized as they were in London (back then anyway).
I've been wondering about the Altamont thing: to get a permit for a big event an organization has to have insurance which would require competent professional security. Hell's Angels antics were well known, so the whole thing doesn't make sense. Altamont was portrayed as the end of the hippie era but 2 folks died at Woodstock (though not from violence) which was supposedly so wonderful.
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I dunno if you watched the film or not, but early on there are scenes showing Melvin Belli, on the phone doing negotiations with some other atty who owned the race track. There was talk of calling judges on the phone to get restraining orders, etc., I thought it was pretty fascinating stuff. Belli was the most prominent lawyer in the country at the time, and boy was that guy smooth.

The times were still naive enough (just barely) to let a free event like that happen, with the Hell's Angel's doing security. It could never happen today. The whole thing was mostly set up on the fly over the phone, as you'll see ...
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Well, I never got a pic of a San Jose sign, so youse have to settle for a Santa Clara, right next door. 🙂 Iím reversing directions now, to look at a possible fixer-upper motorsickle purchase. 🙄😎😁

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I don't wanna pickle....
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I dunno if you watched the film or not, but early on there are scenes showing Melvin Belli, on the phone doing negotiations with some other atty who owned the race track. There was talk of calling judges on the phone to get restraining orders, etc., I thought it was pretty fascinating stuff. Belli was the most prominent lawyer in the country at the time, and boy was that guy smooth.

The times were still naive enough (just barely) to let a free event like that happen, with the Hell's Angel's doing security. It could never happen today. The whole thing was mostly set up on the fly over the phone, as you'll see ...
The "naive" explanation doesn't make sense. Previous Woodstock caused all sorts of logistical issues; Stones had experienced fan violence even in their early days & had been notified about problems after UK Angels "security" at the Hyde Park concert. No good reason at all to hire Oakland Angels esp with their known history of violence including attacks on anti-war protesters. We're supposed to believe that hundreds of CHP & county cops were content to let drug-addled hippies enjoy the Altamont show (only making 3 arrests for drunk in public) & not even interfere when Angels are stabbing spectators & whipping them with motorcycle chains in plain view of 1,000's of witnesses?
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Watch the film.
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