Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

BDop DIY Kinlin wheelset or Shimano 6800 wheelset?

Notices
Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

BDop DIY Kinlin wheelset or Shimano 6800 wheelset?

Old 02-12-15, 11:04 AM
  #1  
BoSoxYacht
Banned
Thread Starter
 
BoSoxYacht's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: take your time, enjoy the scenery, it will be there when you get to it
Posts: 7,282

Bikes: 07 IRO BFGB fixed-gear, 07 Pedal Force RS

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
BDop DIY Kinlin wheelset or Shimano 6800 wheelset?

Both are about the same price, and close in weight, but which would you prefer?

The BDop wheels are slightly wider(1mm inner width), but the Shimano wheels are tubeless.
BoSoxYacht is offline  
Old 02-12-15, 11:05 AM
  #2  
RJM
I'm doing it wrong.
 
RJM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,872

Bikes: Rivendell Appaloosa, Rivendell Frank Jones Sr., Trek Fuel EX9, Kona Jake the Snake CR, Niner Sir9

Mentioned: 72 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7179 Post(s)
Liked 536 Times in 369 Posts
What kind of hubs on the BDop wheels?

I really like Shimano hubs, so I would be leaning that direction.
RJM is offline  
Old 02-12-15, 11:08 AM
  #3  
BoSoxYacht
Banned
Thread Starter
 
BoSoxYacht's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: take your time, enjoy the scenery, it will be there when you get to it
Posts: 7,282

Bikes: 07 IRO BFGB fixed-gear, 07 Pedal Force RS

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by RJM View Post
What kind of hubs on the BDop wheels?

I really like Shimano hubs, so I would be leaning that direction.
Novatech
BoSoxYacht is offline  
Old 02-12-15, 11:23 AM
  #4  
Elvo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 4,348
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 443 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 107 Times in 63 Posts
Special Offer! Pacenti SL23 Build Kit - 20/24 or 24/28
Elvo is offline  
Old 02-12-15, 11:43 AM
  #5  
deacon mark
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,542

Bikes: Habanero Titanium Team Nuevo

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 218 Post(s)
Liked 26 Times in 17 Posts
Get those Bdop they are great 2500 miles on mine roll well. I built them
and can so that makes it easy. Not even touched them up still true. Weight is good I think 1660 24/28.
deacon mark is offline  
Old 02-12-15, 11:46 AM
  #6  
Bandera 
~>~
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: TX Hill Country
Posts: 5,931
Mentioned: 87 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1112 Post(s)
Liked 160 Times in 105 Posts
Originally Posted by RJM View Post
I really like Shimano hubs
As do I for the ability to overhaul the cup & ball systems and set bearing loads precisely myself as well as the quiet sturdy freehubs design.
Not RS6800 but I've been riding the heavier RS30 set for two seasons now and find them reliable and don't doubt the aero efficiency of 16/20 bladed spoke config with a moderately deep rim that doesn't feel affected by crosswinds.

For a lighter climbing set I've been eyeing the RS81-C35 set myself.
__________________
'74 Raleigh Internat'l. '77 Trek TX900 FG. '90 Vitus 979. '10 Merckx EMX3. '13 Soma Stanyan
Bandera is offline  
Old 02-12-15, 11:49 AM
  #7  
BoSoxYacht
Banned
Thread Starter
 
BoSoxYacht's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: take your time, enjoy the scenery, it will be there when you get to it
Posts: 7,282

Bikes: 07 IRO BFGB fixed-gear, 07 Pedal Force RS

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Those are nice wheels, but I'm trying to keep this wheelset around $300.
BoSoxYacht is offline  
Old 02-12-15, 11:52 AM
  #8  
RollCNY
Speechless
 
RollCNY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Central NY
Posts: 8,805

Bikes: Felt Brougham, Lotus Prestige, Cinelli Xperience,

Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 106 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Vote for BDop for the following reasons:
1. He maintains all the hub component parts on his website, so you have access to anything if ever needed.
2. You already build your own wheels, so you will know the quality of the build.
3. BDop is active on the board, responsive to e-mails and issues, and a general good egg. Eggs are good.
RollCNY is offline  
Old 02-12-15, 11:53 AM
  #9  
dtrain
L-I-V-I-N
 
dtrain's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Stafford, OR
Posts: 4,801
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Would you build the Bdop set yourself? If I had the skills, I'd go that route. Otherwise 6800 or Fulcrum Racing 5.
__________________
"The older you do get, the more rules they're gonna try to get you to follow. You just gotta keep livin', man, L-I-V-I-N." - Wooderson

'14 carbon Synapse - '12 CAAD 10 5 - '99 Gary Fisher Big Sur
dtrain is offline  
Old 02-12-15, 11:54 AM
  #10  
BoSoxYacht
Banned
Thread Starter
 
BoSoxYacht's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: take your time, enjoy the scenery, it will be there when you get to it
Posts: 7,282

Bikes: 07 IRO BFGB fixed-gear, 07 Pedal Force RS

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by deacon mark View Post
Get those Bdop they are great 2500 miles on mine roll well. I built them
and can so that makes it easy. Not even touched them up still true.
Building wheels is no problem for me, I've built hundreds over the years.
BoSoxYacht is offline  
Old 02-12-15, 11:59 AM
  #11  
BoSoxYacht
Banned
Thread Starter
 
BoSoxYacht's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: take your time, enjoy the scenery, it will be there when you get to it
Posts: 7,282

Bikes: 07 IRO BFGB fixed-gear, 07 Pedal Force RS

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by RollCNY View Post
Vote for BDop for the following reasons:
1. He maintains all the hub component parts on his website, so you have access to anything if ever needed.
2. You already build your own wheels, so you will know the quality of the build.
3. BDop is active on the board, responsive to e-mails and issues, and a general good egg. Eggs are good.
This is probably the route I'll choose. $299 with CX-Ray spokes is a good deal, but those 6800 wheelsets look pretty sweet.
BoSoxYacht is offline  
Old 02-12-15, 12:44 PM
  #12  
rjones28 
Mostly Harmless
 
rjones28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Chittenango, NY
Posts: 47,796

Bikes: Have two wheels

Mentioned: 162 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7579 Post(s)
Liked 606 Times in 392 Posts
I essentially built BDop's 32/28 kit, before he offered it. Got the hubs from him and the rest from other vendors. I have about 2,000 miles on them and like them.
__________________
Originally Posted by Heathpack View Post
Amateur bike racing is just a fun thing, as far as I know, there's no penalty for not winning.
rjones28 is offline  
Old 02-12-15, 03:24 PM
  #13  
BoSoxYacht
Banned
Thread Starter
 
BoSoxYacht's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: take your time, enjoy the scenery, it will be there when you get to it
Posts: 7,282

Bikes: 07 IRO BFGB fixed-gear, 07 Pedal Force RS

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by rjones28 View Post
I essentially built BDop's 32/28 kit, before he offered it. Got the hubs from him and the rest from other vendors. I have about 2,000 miles on them and like them.
I have no doubt that they are fine wheels, but there's something cool about those 6800 wheels. The only thing that bothers me are the spokes. I wonder if the are proprietary straight pull Shimano spokes, or would Sapim/DT spokes work fine in a pinch.
BoSoxYacht is offline  
Old 02-12-15, 03:30 PM
  #14  
Bandera 
~>~
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: TX Hill Country
Posts: 5,931
Mentioned: 87 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1112 Post(s)
Liked 160 Times in 105 Posts
Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht View Post
The only thing that bothers me are the spokes. I wonder if the are proprietary straight pull Shimano spokes, or would Sapim/DT spokes work fine in a pinch.
OEM for the 6700:

Shimano WH 6700 R Left Hand Spoke 306mm with Plug and Washer
__________________
'74 Raleigh Internat'l. '77 Trek TX900 FG. '90 Vitus 979. '10 Merckx EMX3. '13 Soma Stanyan
Bandera is offline  
Old 02-12-15, 03:37 PM
  #15  
BoSoxYacht
Banned
Thread Starter
 
BoSoxYacht's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: take your time, enjoy the scenery, it will be there when you get to it
Posts: 7,282

Bikes: 07 IRO BFGB fixed-gear, 07 Pedal Force RS

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Bandera View Post
That's a deal breaker.
BoSoxYacht is offline  
Old 02-12-15, 03:54 PM
  #16  
dtrain
L-I-V-I-N
 
dtrain's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Stafford, OR
Posts: 4,801
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Fulcrum made the Racing 5 'LG' slightly wider compared to last year (16c internal). You might at least check that price at Ribble before grabbing the bdop kit. I'd bet the spokes are proprietary as well though.
__________________
"The older you do get, the more rules they're gonna try to get you to follow. You just gotta keep livin', man, L-I-V-I-N." - Wooderson

'14 carbon Synapse - '12 CAAD 10 5 - '99 Gary Fisher Big Sur
dtrain is offline  
Old 02-12-15, 03:59 PM
  #17  
WhyFi
Senior Member
 
WhyFi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: TC, MN
Posts: 29,357

Bikes: R3 Disc, Haanjo

Mentioned: 335 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12556 Post(s)
Liked 2,191 Times in 1,161 Posts
Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht View Post
$299 with CX-Ray spokes is a good deal
Wow - hadn't seen that he'd throw together this deal with the CX-Rays. Hell, the 60 spokes (in the 28/32 set) by themselves will run you close to $200 from most places. Awesome deal.
WhyFi is offline  
Old 02-12-15, 04:17 PM
  #18  
bt
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,664
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
is this a spam thread?
bt is offline  
Old 02-12-15, 04:24 PM
  #19  
BoSoxYacht
Banned
Thread Starter
 
BoSoxYacht's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: take your time, enjoy the scenery, it will be there when you get to it
Posts: 7,282

Bikes: 07 IRO BFGB fixed-gear, 07 Pedal Force RS

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by bt View Post
is this a spam thread?
No.

I was hoping to get a little feedback on 6800 wheelsets. A friend in SLC has a set, but his technical feedback is a little less than I'd like before making a purchase. The spoke details are my biggest concern.
BoSoxYacht is offline  
Old 02-12-15, 04:25 PM
  #20  
WhyFi
Senior Member
 
WhyFi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: TC, MN
Posts: 29,357

Bikes: R3 Disc, Haanjo

Mentioned: 335 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12556 Post(s)
Liked 2,191 Times in 1,161 Posts
Originally Posted by bt View Post
is this a spam thread?
Nobody puts Bdop in a corner.
WhyFi is offline  
Old 02-12-15, 04:27 PM
  #21  
BoSoxYacht
Banned
Thread Starter
 
BoSoxYacht's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: take your time, enjoy the scenery, it will be there when you get to it
Posts: 7,282

Bikes: 07 IRO BFGB fixed-gear, 07 Pedal Force RS

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
Wow - hadn't seen that he'd throw together this deal with the CX-Rays. Hell, the 60 spokes (in the 28/32 set) by themselves will run you close to $200 from most places. Awesome deal.
Yes it's a great deal, but my concern is the seam on the hoop. Is there any problem with brake pulsing?

I hope he chimes in with wheel weights.
BoSoxYacht is offline  
Old 02-12-15, 04:29 PM
  #22  
rjones28 
Mostly Harmless
 
rjones28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Chittenango, NY
Posts: 47,796

Bikes: Have two wheels

Mentioned: 162 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7579 Post(s)
Liked 606 Times in 392 Posts
I haven't felt any pulsing on my XC-279 hoops.
__________________
Originally Posted by Heathpack View Post
Amateur bike racing is just a fun thing, as far as I know, there's no penalty for not winning.
rjones28 is offline  
Old 02-12-15, 04:39 PM
  #23  
Lazyass
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: NC
Posts: 8,306

Bikes: Vintage steel, aluminum, modern carbon disc, single speed, MTB's, the works

Mentioned: 60 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2000 Post(s)
Liked 67 Times in 41 Posts
Same price and similar weight I would get the Ultegra's. Already built and tubeless ready if one wants to try that in the future would be the best deal.
Lazyass is offline  
Old 02-12-15, 04:41 PM
  #24  
BoSoxYacht
Banned
Thread Starter
 
BoSoxYacht's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: take your time, enjoy the scenery, it will be there when you get to it
Posts: 7,282

Bikes: 07 IRO BFGB fixed-gear, 07 Pedal Force RS

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by rjones28 View Post
I haven't felt any pulsing on my XC-279 hoops.
I had great luck with my XR-270 hoops, but read something on the Fairwheel bike blog about pulse issues.
BoSoxYacht is offline  
Old 02-12-15, 04:49 PM
  #25  
BoSoxYacht
Banned
Thread Starter
 
BoSoxYacht's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: take your time, enjoy the scenery, it will be there when you get to it
Posts: 7,282

Bikes: 07 IRO BFGB fixed-gear, 07 Pedal Force RS

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Lazyass View Post
Same price and similar weight I would get the Ultegra's. Already built and tubeless ready if one wants to try that in the future would be the best deal.
That's a little why the decision is tough. Building the wheels is no big deal(It's my side job), but if the 6800 wheels use strictly proprietary spokes its a deal breaker.

I have some Stan's hoops that are tubeless, but I use tubes and Michelin Pro4 tires because I get them cheap(and the ride is phenomenal). Tubeless tires are expensive.
BoSoxYacht is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.