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Old 09-21-19, 11:34 AM
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Still puzzling over smart trainers and here’s another issue: The bike I’m going to use is 10 speed and my wife’s bike is 11. I expect to be the > 75% user. Is a wheel off trainer worth the hassle of changing cassettes? I realize no one can answer this for me, but you can call me an idiot, which is sometimes exactly what one needs to hear.
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@MoAlpha You could buy two trainers or you could bring your bike up speed. This is the 20-teens.
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@MoAlphayou could bring your bike up speed. This is the 20-teens.
No, I cou’int. It was already cold-set to 130 from 126.

I could put my soulless plastic bike on it, but I want it ready to go when the temp is rideable.
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I was just funnin’ witch you but direct drive trainers with multiple bikes can cause a few issues. I use 4 different machines on my Kickr and none of the cassettes were offset the same. I dug out a bunch of hub cassette spacers and finally got all of the cassettes offset the same so now it only takes a few seconds to switch bikes with no gear adjustments. Btw, the cassette that came with my Kickr was crap and skipped gears no matter what. I replaced it with an Ultegra cassette and it works fine.
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I was just funnin’ witch you but direct drive trainers with multiple bikes can cause a few issues. I use 4 different machines on my Kickr and none of the cassettes were offset the same. I dug out a bunch of hub cassette spacers and finally got all of the cassettes offset the same so now it only takes a few seconds to switch bikes with no gear adjustments. Btw, the cassette that came with my Kickr was crap and skipped gears no matter what. I replaced it with an Ultegra cassette and it works fine.
Ugh. Well I’ll only have two. You put the tandem on there?
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Ugh. Well I’ll only have two. You put the tandem on there?
Yes, along with three road bikes and my trike, all 11 speed.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Still puzzling over smart trainers and here’s another issue: The bike I’m going to use is 10 speed and my wife’s bike is 11. I expect to be the > 75% user. Is a wheel off trainer worth the hassle of changing cassettes? I realize no one can answer this for me, but you can call me an idiot, which is sometimes exactly what one needs to hear.
Im not at all familiar with wheel off smart trainers either, but can you adjust your rear derailleur so that it only shifts within sprockets 2 through 11?

by the way, may not be much of a deal, but I think there’s a “wahoo power” listed on Craigslist. No detail on what year it is, but it is a Kickr from the photo listing has.
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Im not at all familiar with wheel off smart trainers either, but can you adjust your rear derailleur so that it only shifts within sprockets 2 through 11?

by the way, may not be much of a deal, but I think there’s a “wahoo power” listed on Craigslist. No detail on what year it is, but it is a Kickr from the photo listing has.
Problem is, the shift intervals are different.

Thanks! I’ll check out the one on CL.
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Old 09-21-19, 02:48 PM
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And, come May, I will wonder why I did so little riding through the Winter. The answer, of course, is that so many other things to do outside are so much more pleasant also.
The golden age of the calendar year.
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The military commissary where we shop stocks two brands of whole-bean coffee, Starbucks and Peets. Starbucks is entirely superior at a similar price.

And my wife owns a bunch of their shares.
I also hold Starbucks shares.
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Old 09-21-19, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Still puzzling over smart trainers and here’s another issue: The bike I’m going to use is 10 speed and my wife’s bike is 11. I expect to be the > 75% user. Is a wheel off trainer worth the hassle of changing cassettes? I realize no one can answer this for me, but you can call me an idiot, which is sometimes exactly what one needs to hear.
She's going to be using it for simulated rides, correct? What about you? Rides or just intervals? I don't have a smart trainer, so there's a good chance I'm wrong, but I don't think that you need to shift if you're doing intervals in ERG mode - the trainer takes care of the resistance regardless of wheel/cassette speed.

Besides the 10- and 11-speed differences, anything else? Both rim brake or both disc? QR/TA? I suppose that the more differences that you have, the more wheel-on starts to make sense.
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Problem is, the shift intervals are different.

Thanks! I’ll check out the one on CL.
Yeah, I completely glossed over that part. I guess an upgrade is in order
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
She's going to be using it for simulated rides, correct? What about you? Rides or just intervals? I don't have a smart trainer, so there's a good chance I'm wrong, but I don't think that you need to shift if you're doing intervals in ERG mode - the trainer takes care of the resistance regardless of wheel/cassette speed.

Besides the 10- and 11-speed differences, anything else? Both rim brake or both disc? QR/TA? I suppose that the more differences that you have, the more wheel-on starts to make sense.
Yes, that’s the draw for her. ERG mode is central to what I hope to accomplish this winter, but I’d like to try some longer sessions and simulations will be essential. Both bikes I’d like to use are rim.
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No, I cou’int. It was already cold-set to 130 from 126.
I thought that 11-speed (rim) was 130mm, too?
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No, I cou’int. It was already cold-set to 130 from 126.

I could put my soulless plastic bike on it, but I want it ready to go when the temp is rideable.
Put the soulless sled on there. It takes seconds to take it off and put the wheel on. Don't be ascared.

I keep forget about that pesky disc brake thing. Is that the case? If so, never mind. Get two trainers and be done with it.
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I thought that 11-speed (rim) was 130mm, too?
Sometimes.
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i thought that 11-speed (rim) was 130mm, too?
135 in this case.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
Put the soulless sled on there. It takes seconds to take it off and put the wheel on. Don't be ascared.

I keep forget about that pesky disc brake thing. Is that the case? If so, never mind. Get two trainers and be done with it.
Yes, disc, alas. 12x142.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
I was just funnin’ witch you but direct drive trainers with multiple bikes can cause a few issues. I use 4 different machines on my Kickr and none of the cassettes were offset the same. I dug out a bunch of hub cassette spacers and finally got all of the cassettes offset the same so now it only takes a few seconds to switch bikes with no gear adjustments. Btw, the cassette that came with my Kickr was crap and skipped gears no matter what. I replaced it with an Ultegra cassette and it works fine.
I just ride outside year round even in the frigid sub 50F degree temperatures we have to endure. It is a pleasure when you have an awesome Marigold jacket. I don't need no stinking smart trainer.
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Howdy y'all! What's this thread about?

Been a while, but I've been lurking for a week or two lately.

I actually rode a bike today! Like I totally remembered how, and only fell off once!

For the last few months I've been dieting, I invented the best diet ever, that I've christened The Tequila Diet(tm), on which I'm down 30 pounds in just a few months already. Part of that has been avoiding hard cardio that makes me hungry... but I said screw it and hit the trails today on the MTB. It's my bday, I'm headed to a tequila joint, and I needed some extra calories! I guess my plan is to get down to 200 (year's end if I'm lucky), and then hit the bike and just try to maintain weight. If I keep losing more, then bonus.
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