Skinsuits, Speedsuits, one piece, Aero..
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Skinsuits, Speedsuits, one piece, Aero..
There are several names that go along with a one piece skinsuit, that most have used for Time Trials and Track. But lately, I have seen more and more worn in the pro peloton such as in the classics and grand tours, and used by other than sprinters. Dose any one else here wear them on a daily ride as opposed to the traditional two piece jersey and bibs? I have yet to see any in my area wearing them other than for Time Trials.
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I like to think that some day I might fit into one.
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Daily ride? Not really, because they're inconvenient to wear and pricey. Also, while they can be significantly faster than loose-fitting kit, the differences between them and decent tight-fitting bibs+jersey aren't necessarily dramatic.
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People painted their bodies... for the ancient Picts it was Woad..
A poet on the topic;
Ancient Britons never needed clothes
Silks and satins underwear or hose
Painted In their Woad they loved to pose
Like Atavars with bright blue face and torso
In Woad we'll scare the Foe Men
And melt all alien Snow Men
Always on the go Men.
Boil it to a brilliant blue
Wear Woad from head to toe Men.
Romans came across the channel
All dressed up in tin and flannel
In half a pint of Woad per man'll
We're better dressed than these
We never wear shirts made of cotton
Ties that always get forgotten
Dip the brush in - paint the lot on
Woad's always fresh and clean.
For ladies Woad makes perfect dresses
To match their eyes and long blonde tresses
It rubs off in their beau's caresses
But they wear Woad as well.
Vikings - Saxons keep your armours
Fur coats were made for goats and llamas
Ancient Brits don't wear pyjmas
We sleep naked in our Woad.
Tramp up Snowden with our Woad on
Don't care if we get rained or blowed on
We'd march for days along the road on
Feet just clad in Woad.
Ancient Britons never hit on
Anything as good as Woad to fit on
Breasts and chests and where you sit on
One size fits all in Woad.
light blue - bright blue - late at night blue
Colour of eyes after a fight blue
Always bound to find the right blue
Every shade of Woad.
Dark blue for a girl with passion
Duck egg blue the latest fashion
Never have a clothing ration
Just slap on the Woad.
Atavars look good in blue
They have no choice they're blue all through
But ancient Brits could Woad eschew
Go out red or green.
In an economic crisis
Woad is cheap - compare the prices
And in the Summer it quite nice is
Cool as a mountain stream.
In Woad - you'll scare the Foe - MAN
You'll feel warm in the snow - MAN
Always on the go - MAN
Just boil it to abrilliant hue
And rub it on your chest and your ABDOMAN
Then you'll be steady ever ready
All dressed In WOAD from head to toe - MAN.
A poet on the topic;
Ancient Britons never needed clothes
Silks and satins underwear or hose
Painted In their Woad they loved to pose
Like Atavars with bright blue face and torso
In Woad we'll scare the Foe Men
And melt all alien Snow Men
Always on the go Men.
Boil it to a brilliant blue
Wear Woad from head to toe Men.
Romans came across the channel
All dressed up in tin and flannel
In half a pint of Woad per man'll
We're better dressed than these
We never wear shirts made of cotton
Ties that always get forgotten
Dip the brush in - paint the lot on
Woad's always fresh and clean.
For ladies Woad makes perfect dresses
To match their eyes and long blonde tresses
It rubs off in their beau's caresses
But they wear Woad as well.
Vikings - Saxons keep your armours
Fur coats were made for goats and llamas
Ancient Brits don't wear pyjmas
We sleep naked in our Woad.
Tramp up Snowden with our Woad on
Don't care if we get rained or blowed on
We'd march for days along the road on
Feet just clad in Woad.
Ancient Britons never hit on
Anything as good as Woad to fit on
Breasts and chests and where you sit on
One size fits all in Woad.
light blue - bright blue - late at night blue
Colour of eyes after a fight blue
Always bound to find the right blue
Every shade of Woad.
Dark blue for a girl with passion
Duck egg blue the latest fashion
Never have a clothing ration
Just slap on the Woad.
Atavars look good in blue
They have no choice they're blue all through
But ancient Brits could Woad eschew
Go out red or green.
In an economic crisis
Woad is cheap - compare the prices
And in the Summer it quite nice is
Cool as a mountain stream.
In Woad - you'll scare the Foe - MAN
You'll feel warm in the snow - MAN
Always on the go - MAN
Just boil it to abrilliant hue
And rub it on your chest and your ABDOMAN
Then you'll be steady ever ready
All dressed In WOAD from head to toe - MAN.
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I have a Castelli Speedsuit. Quite like it. Generally just use it for races but it is no more hassle to wear than normal bib shorts and top.
It also doesn't obviously look like a skin suit so you don't seem like some kind of "poser" or "try hard".
It also doesn't obviously look like a skin suit so you don't seem like some kind of "poser" or "try hard".
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I have a Speedsuit too. Lot of teammates love them, so I was induced to get one and see what they were raving about. It's okay, but it hasn't been life-changing for me. (Although I will say it makes a great winter baselayer under tights and a L/S jersey.)
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For TT's I wear an Assos Speedsuit or more recently a Bioracer Concept.
But on the road I often wear Voler's Velocity Road Suit. The Med just happens to fit me really well, easy on/off and comfortable in hot weather. As a bonus it has rear pockets. There is a noticeable difference in Aero over bibs/jersey, especially on windy days.
But on the road I often wear Voler's Velocity Road Suit. The Med just happens to fit me really well, easy on/off and comfortable in hot weather. As a bonus it has rear pockets. There is a noticeable difference in Aero over bibs/jersey, especially on windy days.
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used to have a trisuit (short sleeve & short legs) & found it invigorating & I felt faster in it (even tho I wore it under cycling shorts) it was a tad too small tho, so when the zipper stitching tore a little, in one spot, I chucked it & switched to trishorts (under cycling shorts or pants)
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Speedsuit on a daily ride? No. My training partners would (rightly) scoff, throw things at me, and make me ride by myself.
I save the speedsuit for races and for 1 or 2 test rides before each race (just to make sure the race kit will all work when the time comes). Same for my aero bar-mounted water bottle. On training rides, a little drag helps me stay in the designated power zone. I don't need to be that aero.
I save the speedsuit for races and for 1 or 2 test rides before each race (just to make sure the race kit will all work when the time comes). Same for my aero bar-mounted water bottle. On training rides, a little drag helps me stay in the designated power zone. I don't need to be that aero.
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Track, crits and TT exclusively. For road races and training rides I need pockets. They make some now with a central rear pocket but I agree with @HTupolev - why bother.
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thank you. googling "cycling in body paint" was interesting
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I personally would only use a speedsuit in a TT or Criterium, wasn't much of an investment for me though, found Verge Samples in my size (size small) for only $30. EXTREMELY high quality, easily something that would retail for like $150 (I have plenty of aliexpress cycling clothes, and these are not 3rd party rip offs.)
I'll leave a link if you're interested (I'm not affiliated in any way, just a happy customer) https://store.vergesport.com/samples...ve-black-blue/
I'll leave a link if you're interested (I'm not affiliated in any way, just a happy customer) https://store.vergesport.com/samples...ve-black-blue/
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Other than for sprint stuff, I like the suits for sustained strenuous efforts, certainly up to 12h. It helps to focus the mind and to stay in an aero tuck, and it seems easier to regulate your body temperature. Getting long-sleeved suits back on when sweaty is tricky, though. This will be my first short-sleeve suit and I will be hoping to use it for an upcoming ~48h TT.
Other than for sprint stuff, I like the suits for sustained strenuous efforts, certainly up to 12h. It helps to focus the mind and to stay in an aero tuck, and it seems easier to regulate your body temperature. Getting long-sleeved suits back on when sweaty is tricky, though. This will be my first short-sleeve suit and I will be hoping to use it for an upcoming ~48h TT.
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What to do with aerosuit sizing when you wear a large top, but medium bib short?
Fear that going with medium suit will make top too tight, yet going with a large could mean a good fit in the top but loose in the bottom.
Fear that going with medium suit will make top too tight, yet going with a large could mean a good fit in the top but loose in the bottom.
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I personally would only use a speedsuit in a TT or Criterium, wasn't much of an investment for me though, found Verge Samples in my size (size small) for only $30. EXTREMELY high quality, easily something that would retail for like $150 (I have plenty of aliexpress cycling clothes, and these are not 3rd party rip offs.)
I'll leave a link if you're interested (I'm not affiliated in any way, just a happy customer) https://store.vergesport.com/samples...ve-black-blue/
I'll leave a link if you're interested (I'm not affiliated in any way, just a happy customer) https://store.vergesport.com/samples...ve-black-blue/
A speedsuit is an attached bib/jersey with pockets that you can still use in road races. That Verge thing is simply a one-piece skinsuit for time trials and the like that you can't carry anything with you on.
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That's a good deal and I got excited for a second, but that's an irritating label. That's a skinsuit.
A speedsuit is an attached bib/jersey with pockets that you can still use in road races. That Verge thing is simply a one-piece skinsuit for time trials and the like that you can't carry anything with you on.
A speedsuit is an attached bib/jersey with pockets that you can still use in road races. That Verge thing is simply a one-piece skinsuit for time trials and the like that you can't carry anything with you on.
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Here's what I'm wondering....I have a 6.5 mph TT that I created near my house. It is relatively flat with about 300ft of elevation. In any event, I am up to 18.7 mph and am hoping to hit 19 mph this year. About how much time can I save over that distance with a skin suit? Not sure anyone will even be able to guess but thought I'd ask. FWIW, I'd like to be able to hit that mark for my 72nd birthday in June. Maybe a bit optimistic. But, by September...maybe.
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Here's what I'm wondering....I have a 6.5 mph TT that I created near my house. It is relatively flat with about 300ft of elevation. In any event, I am up to 18.7 mph and am hoping to hit 19 mph this year. About how much time can I save over that distance with a skin suit? Not sure anyone will even be able to guess but thought I'd ask. FWIW, I'd like to be able to hit that mark for my 72nd birthday in June. Maybe a bit optimistic. But, by September...maybe.
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Depends on what you're wearing now. From weather reports, I'm guessing a fur coat?
Also, a more aerodynamic helmet would help too.
Also, a more aerodynamic helmet would help too.