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Old 04-29-20, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Related: Spot any roadkill?
Just one red pigeon. I didn't get out to the desert at all today.
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Old 04-29-20, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
If I get another it'll probably be something that can take 700Cx28/650Bx47 but with a roadie-style fit. Current leader in the clubhouse is next year's Milwaukee Mettle, but there are options. Just something to be different from the R2, and be a disc brake option for events to maintain wheel compatibility with AG's SystemSix.
That's a neat bike. Hard to go wrong with Waterford-built steel

Have you taken a look at that geometry table though What size would you take?

My current idea for a gravel build is predicated on being able to get my old MTB frame repaired. I'm pretty confident that I would be able to get a good drop-bar fit on it, I would just need a nice long rigid fork on it to keep the geometry in line. Chainstays have clearance for 29x2.2 knobbies, so I'd likely run something along the lines of a 700x48-50
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
I like your bike sir.
Best riding bike I've ever owned. I absolutely love this thing!
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Originally Posted by datlas
Are those buttercups?? Does the bike like butter??
The flowers? They're California poppies.

The motor runs on butter.
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Old 04-29-20, 11:54 AM
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Best riding bike I've ever owned. I absolutely love this thing!
c3 or c5?
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My home town

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Originally Posted by WhyFi
There are a few restaurants in Mpls that have camel burgers. I think that the frozen part is more daring than the camel part.
I ate camel kebabs in Australia (Alice Springs area) - by far the toughest, hardest, chewiest meat I've ever tried to eat. Six-hour chili stuff.
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Old 04-29-20, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by abshipp
turns out stories about dolphins can do the same thing

lovely memories, thank you for sharing
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Old 04-29-20, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by abshipp
That's a neat bike. Hard to go wrong with Waterford-built steel

Have you taken a look at that geometry table though What size would you take?

My current idea for a gravel build is predicated on being able to get my old MTB frame repaired. I'm pretty confident that I would be able to get a good drop-bar fit on it, I would just need a nice long rigid fork on it to keep the geometry in line. Chainstays have clearance for 29x2.2 knobbies, so I'd likely run something along the lines of a 700x48-50
I have; are you thinking it's too low? I have short legs and a long torso, and my favorite stack/reach combo so far is my S1 at 560/394. One of the issues with gravel bikes for me is how upright they are; from what I see my desire might be more in line with "all-road", if that really means "gravel clearance, road geometry". All of these terms seem to be used rather loosely, though. Very little risk of me suddenly racing DK.
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Oh and since I completely missed answering part of your question, I'd take a 56. Slammed and a 110+ stem for road; raise the stem if I do want more stack for gravel at some point. This all assumes they don't relax the geo when they redo it this winter (per their email to me, when they'll also add 650B compatibility).
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
c3 or c5?
c3
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize
My home town

I don't do much downtown, though. Most riding is to the west.
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Originally Posted by phrantic09
we have winds from the SE, I managed to get out for 20- the winds were around 9 when I started but 14ish by the time I finished.
You have some type of mobile wind measuring device or are you relying on a home device?
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Old 04-29-20, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
I have; are you thinking it's too low? I have short legs and a long torso, and my favorite stack/reach combo so far is my S1 at 560/394. One of the issues with gravel bikes for me is how upright they are; from what I see my desire might be more in line with "all-road", if that really means "gravel clearance, road geometry". All of these terms seem to be used rather loosely, though. Very little risk of me suddenly racing DK.
I was more talking about how between the smallest and largest sizes, the head tube and seat tube angles vary by 2.5°. I get it, since they're CX bikes toe overlap could be a concern on the smaller sizes, but that's a pretty striking difference.

Although looking at a small sample of CX bikes from Specialized, Canyon, and Trek, they do the same thing. Canyon at least keeps the seat tube angle the same through all the sizes. I guess since pro CX is locked in to 700c wheels some weird geometry comes out at the smaller sizes.

I think you're probably right in your differentiation between gravel and all road.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlF4Mol2cAM

I don't do much downtown, though. Most riding is to the west.
No action shots of the ball dropping? Sad.
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Old 04-29-20, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by abshipp
I was more talking about how between the smallest and largest sizes, the head tube and seat tube angles vary by 2.5°. I get it, since they're CX bikes toe overlap could be a concern on the smaller sizes, but that's a pretty striking difference.

Although looking at a small sample of CX bikes from Specialized, Canyon, and Trek, they do the same thing. Canyon at least keeps the seat tube angle the same through all the sizes. I guess since pro CX is locked in to 700c wheels some weird geometry comes out at the smaller sizes.

I think you're probably right in your differentiation between gravel and all road.
In my experience, that changing of HTA and STA at the extreme sizes is more common than not. Fortunately, it's one of the things that I don't have to worry about since I'm just about always in the exact middle of sizing.
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Originally Posted by datlas
I don't have a fancy PM but I do have a sense of my power from Zwift rides, and I have been looking at the power estimates from Strava. I do think they are reasonably close for solo rides. Clearly they do NOT take into account wind and other factors, but for a very rough approximation it's not half bad. I would guess it's within 20% of reality for an entire ride. For segments the error rate is a bit higher, of course.

Has anyone compared what Strava says and what your PM says to see if my observation is consistent?
It's hard to say exactly, because I've never recorded a ride on two devices simultaneously (one with power, one without), but I think that it tends to estimate a little low for me. Part of it may be just because of the way that I ride - I tend to be very torque-happy and I have high-ish peaks. For a ride average, yeah, it's probably within your estimated 20%, but that's pretty damn significant unless you're putzing around. On segments? Forget about it, unless it's uphill and at least moderately long.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
No action shots of the ball dropping? Sad.
I should arrange for drone footage of me zooming past the Brown Squirrel and other West Knox County landmarks.

Viral content, probably.
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Originally Posted by sfrider
The flowers? They're California poppies.

The motor runs on butter.
Oh, ok. I thought they were buttercups. You know, the wild flower that if you put under your chin and your chin turns yellow, it means you like butter.

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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlF4Mol2cAM

I don't do much downtown, though. Most riding is to the west.
I can see why. Most of my riding is to the East
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
If I get another it'll probably be something that can take 700Cx28/650Bx47 but with a roadie-style fit. Current leader in the clubhouse is next year's Milwaukee Mettle, but there are options. Just something to be different from the R2, and be a disc brake option for events to maintain wheel compatibility with AG's SystemSix.
How much is the complete bike? More-or-less
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Just one red pigeon. I didn't get out to the desert at all today.
So it was dead and red. That sucks doubly.
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize
How much is the complete bike? More-or-less
Just under $3k with 105 hydro and their in-house fork..
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In advance of TBT I scanned it as a jpeg. Wish the water bottles matched.


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Whither patentcad? I hope he did not succumb to the virus. I heard that the elderly are more vulnerable.

ps last login was March 12th. Hmmm....
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