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Old 10-09-11, 08:10 PM
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Does riding a Fredly bike make you a Fred? If so, I'm guilty as charged.
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If it matters to you that you might be a Fred - you aren't. Freds don't care what you ride, but like it if you do. Freds ride their bikes with whatever gear they deem necessary without worrying about weight, color coordination, or the latest and greatest doodad. Freds just ride, and can usually be identified readily by the bugs that adorn their grins as they do so. IMHO.
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Old 10-09-11, 11:00 PM
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The path of the righteous commuter is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish cager and the tyranny of evil roadies. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the newbie commuter cyclist through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the builder of ridiculously bright DIY bicycle lights. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brother commuter. And you will know I am a Fred when I lay my vengeance upon thee...



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Old 10-09-11, 11:54 PM
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... I have recently stopped wearing my cool Primal, iZumi, etc... $75 cycling jerseys and now rotate among 8 identical hi-vis yellow C9 shirts...

I think I'm a Wilma
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Originally Posted by Jim-in-Kirkland View Post
OMG - I am fred! All this time & did not know it....
AKA... Fred-in Kirkland!

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Old 10-10-11, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Ratchet View Post
... I have recently stopped wearing my cool Primal, iZumi, etc... $75 cycling jerseys and now rotate among 8 identical hi-vis yellow C9 shirts...

I think I'm a Wilma
I don't believe you!

Let's see pics for proof!

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Old 10-10-11, 12:17 AM
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[QUOTE=Cyclaholic;13342072]The path of the righteous commuter is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish cager and the tyranny of evil roadies. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the newbie commuter cyclist through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the builder of ridiculously bright DIY bicycle lights. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brother commuter. And you will know I am a Fred when I lay my vengeance upon thee...



So you think that's funny, do ya?

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Some might get a giggle out of it

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Old 10-10-11, 12:24 AM
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It's funny how there are a few different interpretations of the word and each one is used by a certain group of cyclist to knock a different type of rider.

I don't consider you a fred unless you have a full carbon fiber road bike and you're terribly out of shape, but still trying to wear spandex.

utility riders with racks/fenders/bells? that's just smart

bearded hippies dropping roadies in the dust? that's just awesome
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Old 10-10-11, 02:17 AM
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Oh, crap!
I just found this, in an old (2009) thread on Fred:

"Do you by any chance listen to your ipod when riding? Do you wear a giro helmet by chance? Do you enjoy wearing lycra? Do you see Lance Armstrong in your rear view mirror when riding? Better yet, do you have a rear view mirror mounted on any of your bikes?"

Okay, no mirror (yet, give me time, I swore I'd never have panniers, either, now I'm proud to rock 'em...), but yeah, I bought a Giro this summer, have my iPhone mounted on my stem of my 29er that I ride to work on, and I do wear close to cycle-specific gear (not quite, I don't think my lumpy self should be in full-on lycra)... Oh yeah, and Lance? Yeah, not going to start anything in the BF about him, but no, he doesn't ride on my trips...

Yeah, I'm a Wilma... and no chance am I posting pics of me!
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"Fredliness" is a state of mind, it's utilitarian and practical. It's selfish in a good way because it doesn't care what you think. It's pure and it's about enjoying a ride without bending to anyone elses idea of how it should be done. Competative racers hate Freds because Freds are having more fun and not taking things too seriously. It's a mistake to think it's all about the bike, a bike can look like a Fred's bike but it only really becomes Fredly when the Fred gets on and rides it (at 10MPH).
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Expecting to get my first real live road bike today, but am proud to be Fred. My CX bike helps me commute, ride the roads, and actually do CX races, just changing outfits (rack, fenders, lights, etc) depending on what the day requires. And I have learned that getting my ass handed to me by other riders only happens in their minds - I ain't racing them....I race against me.
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Old 10-10-11, 07:18 AM
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Personally I ride mountain bikes, carbon bikes, TT bikes, touring bikes, commuter bikes, fixie/SS, etc….and I have the associated gear that make sense. I don’t wear my TT spandex when I am out touring and I don’t have bags on my TT bike. Fenders make perfect sense on my commuter, but not on my carbon group ride bike. Funny thing….when I am on a group ride, I am Fred cause my friends know I have fenders, headlights, racks on my commuter bike and when I am touring with friends, I am a Fred because I actually own and use the word “kit” and ride carbon….and pretty much all of them say I am an “old” hipster wanna-be cause I like to ride around on my fixie/SS at 45 yrs old.. I guess the moral to the story is we are all Fred according to someone else. Personally I am cool with whatever you want to ride as long as you’re riding. Saving gas, getting healthy and saving your life, etc….as long as you’re pedaling, it’s all good.

Just don’t be a poser. There is nothing worse that the guy who buys all the gear to play the part but doesn’t put in the saddle time. I have seen “that guy” who should not be wearing spandex rolling around on the $5000 race bike and I have seen the guy with the brand new touring rig with high end bags and electronics who’s idea of a “tour” is 20 miles.
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Old 10-10-11, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Scheherezade View Post
90s mountain bike with clip-on aero bars
Pick any three: multiple front/rear lights, conspicuosy tape, ANSI vest, multiple mirrors, AIRZOUND
Road bike with bars at least 3 inches above saddle
Anyone riding a 'bent
Moustache
Somebody rocking a 90's mountain bike with clip-on aeros sounds more like a lone wolf to me.
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Old 10-10-11, 07:27 AM
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I am a dyed in the wool Fred but to remove any doubts regarding my 'fredhood' I mounted this on my rear rack:


Now even non-cyclists know that I'm a dork. My nine year old son thinks it's great.
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Originally Posted by jezmellors View Post
"Fredliness" is a state of mind, it's utilitarian and practical. It's selfish in a good way because it doesn't care what you think. It's pure and it's about enjoying a ride without bending to anyone elses idea of how it should be done. Competative racers hate Freds because Freds are having more fun and not taking things too seriously. It's a mistake to think it's all about the bike, a bike can look like a Fred's bike but it only really becomes Fredly when the Fred gets on and rides it (at 10MPH).
I like this description and those like it.
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Originally Posted by Surrealdeal View Post

Now even non-cyclists know that I'm a dork.
Newsflash: non-cyclists think ALL cyclists are dorks, Freds or not.... We're only cool here in the BFs.
You knew that, right?

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Old 10-10-11, 08:41 AM
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a "Fred" is someone who is often someone who is more comfortable on their bike (because they use what works for them regardless of how "cool" it is) or has more discretionary income to spend on their hobby than the person using the term to describe him/her.
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Newsflash: non-cyclists think ALL cyclists are dorks, Freds or not.... We're only cool here in the BFs.
You knew that, right?

Your point is well taken but actually I was thinking of the joggers, dog walkers and rollerbladers that I see on the MUP. Most of whom evaluate me as some kind of a potential threat. After I am past them they can say, "Oh, it's OK, that was just some dork."

Personally I think it's pretty big of me to go out of my way to make rollerbladers feel like normal people. It's a public service that I provide at no charge.
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Originally Posted by jezmellors View Post
"Fredliness" is a state of mind, it's utilitarian and practical. It's selfish in a good way because it doesn't care what you think. It's pure and it's about enjoying a ride without bending to anyone elses idea of how it should be done. Competative racers hate Freds because Freds are having more fun and not taking things too seriously. It's a mistake to think it's all about the bike, a bike can look like a Fred's bike but it only really becomes Fredly when the Fred gets on and rides it (at 10MPH).
FWIW, I am a competitive racer and I do not hate Freds. There are some two-wheeled folks I cannot stand, like the salmons, the ninjas, and the midtown barhoppers who ride their stupid big box store beach cruisers on the sidewalk. But not Freds.
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I always thought Fred's definition changes depending which part of the forum your in, hell depending on the context a lot of people on this site seem to revel in being a "Fred" I know over in SS/FG it seems a fred is more someone riding in a full kit and showing off all accessories/unneeded bells and whistles to everyone he can... I'm pretty sure I'm a C&V Fred since I take old bikes and do modernish things to them... but yeah a fred can be a compliment depending on who your talking to and what context, to the generalized insult that everyone gets a different image in their head of (probably why it can also be a compliment).
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If it matters to you that you might be a Fred - you aren't. Freds don't care what you ride, but like it if you do. Freds ride their bikes with whatever gear they deem necessary without worrying about weight, color coordination, or the latest and greatest doodad. Freds just ride, and can usually be identified readily by the bugs that adorn their grins as they do so. IMHO.
And if that's a fred, I'm proud to be one.
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Originally Posted by jsdavis View Post
I am not entirely sure either, but from what I gather it's anything that makes the bike uncool or practical and arguably safer. Things like fenders, racks and panniers, reflective gear, lights, bells are all considered to be Fred. From what I can gather it's anything that doesn't align with the current fixed gear trend or possibly road cycling as a sport.
I'm not sure panniers make a bike safer. They add weight, sometimes just to one side (if you don't have a pair of them) which changes the bike's handling characteristics and can negatively impact braking (40 lbs of stuff in there means more inertia!).

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The weekend rider who spends $5,000 buying a super-light bike and the most expensive bike to look "like a pro," but has to push the bike up a small hills.
No, that's a poseur, almost exactly the opposite of a Fred.
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Panniers are practical, though. I am all for panniers, and have always had some on my utility/touring bikes. Someone who puts them on a road bike, though, is absolutely a Fred.
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Originally Posted by Surrealdeal View Post
I am a dyed in the wool Fred but to remove any doubts regarding my 'fredhood' I mounted this on my rear rack:


Now even non-cyclists know that I'm a dork. My nine year old son thinks it's great.
Nice Cannondales, I have the same ones on the front of my Xtracycle.
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Originally Posted by fastbartender View Post
I don't consider you a fred unless you have a full carbon fiber road bike and you're terribly out of shape, but still trying to wear spandex.
That's not a fred, that's a poseur. The difference is like cats and dogs.
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Fred Talkin':

You're not a real Fred until you can get down with a brand new Trek Madone, decked out with Easy Rider Handlebars and a Banana Seat!

...Yeah! That's what I'm talkin' bout!

< Walks over into the corner, flips his kick-stand, and then folds his arms uptight!>

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