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Old 05-12-15, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by leftsinkhandle View Post
I wonder if they do have the 725 fixed even if it is with a small washer.
Do you really want to find out ? #Imaguineapig
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Old 05-12-15, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by leftsinkhandle View Post
I've really got my mind set on getting a kagero. I don't want to get a 721 because I feel like it is a down grade, I read what scrod said about it actually being a better bike. Still warrantying a frame and getting something of lesser value just leaves a bad taste in my mouth..
I would personally feel more ripped off in the scenario in which a cracked frame leads me towards something more expensive. But, the Kagero does look fun!
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Old 05-13-15, 08:04 AM
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I would personally feel more ripped off in the scenario in which a cracked frame leads me towards something more expensive. But, the Kagero does look fun!
The Kagero looks overpriced to me. For the same price you can get a Colossi Low Pro Encore frameset with a full carbon fork.
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Old 05-13-15, 08:07 AM
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cuz its got the names of two companies, extra dollhairs.

fwiw: i think everyone ive seen on here that has gotten one sold it and moved to something else, with the complaint being "it just never fit right"
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Old 05-13-15, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by leftsinkhandle View Post
I wonder if they do have the 725 fixed even if it is with a small washer.
The new version will have a shorter bottom cutout on the seatpost clamp. However...a local kid in SD has already cracked one of the prototypes, magic nylon washer and all.

That being his third cracked 7-series frame, they upgraded him to a Kagero.
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Old 05-13-15, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
The new version will have a shorter bottom cutout on the seatpost clamp. However...a local kid in SD has already cracked one of the prototypes, magic nylon washer and all.

That being his third cracked 7-series frame, they upgraded him to a Kagero.
Thanks for the info

I'm surprised to see all the negative comments about the kagero I was under the impression that it was liked this forum.
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Old 05-13-15, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by leftsinkhandle View Post
I'm surprised to see all the negative comments about the kagero I was under the impression that it was liked this forum.
I think a lot of us end up going with something from a well established brand, like Cinelli, once we get up into that level (price) of aluminum framesets.

That said, Scrod had one and enjoyed it. I believe he's on an All-City thunderdome now though. You'd have to ask to see which one he likes more!
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Old 05-13-15, 11:21 AM
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The Kagero and Renovatio are both really nice frames and worth the price, IMO. The saddle-to-bar-drop my 2011 Kagero had didn't agree with my back or shoulders, though.
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Old 05-13-15, 11:33 AM
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The saddle-to-bar-drop my 2011 Kagero had didn't agree with my back or shoulders, though.
But wouldn't that be the case with any of those pursuit style frames ?
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Old 05-13-15, 12:36 PM
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Yes, which is precisely why I don't ride any bikes having such geometry, Leader or otherwise.

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Old 05-15-15, 10:44 PM
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TT, I am 49 this year. Wish I could catch a plane to where you are and ride your bikes! I'm 5' 5.5" and would probably fit. :-)



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Made some small but significant changes to the Leaders, to wit:

1) Replaced silver master link on Cretin with orange outer link.

2) plugged threaded holes in Cretin dropouts with stainless steel button head hex screws.

3) Added BFSSFG flying squirrel stickers to seat tubes on Cretin and 721

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Old 05-24-15, 06:19 PM
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Got refunded store credit for my 725 and got this gem.
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Old 05-24-15, 06:26 PM
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^^^ Looks good. Drive side pic and you'll get more compliments.
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Old 05-24-15, 10:20 PM
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love the kageros.
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Old 05-26-15, 02:18 PM
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My TB14s came in. 2015 Leader Cretin - Pedal Room

One day I'll have a full Nitto cockpit. One day.
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Old 06-03-15, 05:55 AM
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Alright. 1 month later update.

I wasn't going to spend money on an uograde so I decided I'd try another 725 frameset as replacement. After sending 3 emails I finally got a response from leader and we worked out an arrangment. I'd send my frameset with fork headset and bb. They'd swap the parts over to a new frame and return it, free of charge.

My frame arrived in San Diego. I then sent several emails requesting tracking information. After my frame sat there for a week I was finally told that it was shipping thag day.
6+ emails over 2 weeks requesting tracking information and I was told last night that my frame shipped yesterday and was given a tracking number.

By far some of the worst customer service I've ever received. I've been without my bike for a month.

This will be the last thing I ever buy from leader. I'm debating selling it and my 721 and buying something from a company that has competent employees.
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Old 06-03-15, 06:16 AM
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^^^ That's pretty sad, but I would not get rid of the 721 just because you are pissed off at Leader. I know you are angry at them, but don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. The 721 is a good frame and I've had no problems with mine.
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Old 06-03-15, 10:26 AM
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^^^ That's pretty sad, but I would not get rid of the 721 just because you are pissed off at Leader. I know you are angry at them, but don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. The 721 is a good frame and I've had no problems with mine.
Solid advice here. I'd also feel a little weird selling the 725 until I put some serious miles on it without a seat post crack, as it would suck to pass this nightmare on to somebody else.
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I agree with TT. Not buying from them in the future seems like it will suffice.
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That's a valid point.

Another update :
The tracking information I got informed me I had a package scheduled for delivery today. I emailed tim at leader 4 times to confirm that he actually included my fork and headset with the shipment. No response.
This morning my package arrives at post office and the tracking information say it has been recalled. I went to post office and was told that the shipper recalled the package (meaning he finally checked his email and realized they screwed up ).

An hour later I receive another tracking number for a package due next wednesday. So a solid month since they received my return.
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Old 06-05-15, 11:47 AM
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^That's really awful.
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ugh, keep posting this stuff, because apparently they do check here and its good to get the word out that they need to get their crap together
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Too many drugs.
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Old 06-05-15, 12:57 PM
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It's been frustrating, I can't imagine how difficult this process would be for someone with one bike that depended on it for work or commuting.

I commute daily but luckily have a few backup bikes.


I have a friend returning his 2014 725 for a seat tube failure, well see how his experience goes.
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Anyone with a 2014+ 721/725/735 willing to measure the Leader decal on the down tube of their bike? I'm trying to get replacement decals and I see 2 sizes online, and I'm not sure if either is quite right.
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