Equipment/Product Review (1989) Athena vs Ultegra on PINARELLO Nuovo Cadore
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Equipment/Product Review (1989) Athena vs Ultegra on PINARELLO Nuovo Cadore
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"... Then I look at Athena. Right away, rationality goes out the window."
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Glad to see that Shimano with SIS has been remarked as better advanced technology compared to Campy Syncro Shift
09-28-23, 06:51 PM
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thank you for the post. really good read.
09-29-23, 01:35 AM
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I bought the Athena group after reading this at the time. It was a far from perfect product and probably inferior to shimano in most every aspect, but it got me through several years of racing.
09-29-23, 04:52 AM
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The eight speed brifters were where Campy really upped its game.
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I so agree, the 8 speeds on the Motta feel heads and shoulders better than any of the others from either brand on my other bikes. This was noticed from the very first ride.
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I wonder what "numb" shifters feel like?
09-29-23, 12:49 PM
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Well I am on the opposite side I tried back a fondriest many years ago with c record ergopower and found them less responsive and less precise than the dura ace st 7400.
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I would pick Athena, but the Shimano had WAY better shifting. Campagnolo "kind of" caught up with Record 10spd, but right after that, Shimano jumped way a head again. Campagnolo hasn't caught back up since.
Downtube index, The Dura-ace 7700 era is still mind blowing. It's perfect.
Downtube index, The Dura-ace 7700 era is still mind blowing. It's perfect.
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By this time the Suntour patent was dead and buried.
Campagnolo took to long to give in.
Campagnolo took to long to give in.
