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Old 06-05-18, 10:29 PM
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I'm training for a metric half-century. Got any tips?
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Originally Posted by Spoonrobot
Glenn's Complete Bicycle Manual, 1973 is mentioned in the century ride Wiki as being a source for this quote:
Quote:A sanctioned century ride is organized and conducted under the rules and liability protection of a sanctioning organization, such as the League of American Bicyclists.[1]
How could a 1973 book have a quote giving the organization a name that didn't exist until years later? At that time the group was called the League of American Wheelmen. My recollection of that period is that there were already a series of different 'Century' events: quarter, half, metric, full, double metric, and double. AIRC, the metric was supposed to be completed in under 7 hours according to the LAW.

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Originally Posted by Doctor Morbius
I'm training for a metric half-century. Got any tips?
Shorts, chamois cream, sun protection, hydration (at least some of it something more balanced than water), charged cell phone, take short breaks. No mater what time of day you set out, bring lights in case you spend longer than planned.

What was your longest ride so far and what felt limiting?

On my two 100km rides, each time coming up on the 50km point I felt pretty beat even though I'd previously gone much further. Got off the saddle, had something to eat and drink, got back on feeling much better and kept going.

Also having a defined goal: 50km for me is where I get on the waterfront greenway, around and up to the lighthouse, and back home again. That one does have several points where I can bail out to a subway station, which I've sometimes done when I'm only "going for a ride" and not trying to meet a goal, but making it the whole way back feels like more of an accomplishment. On longer rides, bailout options apart from using the phone can be much further between, which can be a substantial motivation to keep going.
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Originally Posted by desconhecido
There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
I recently learned a new variation.

There are two kinds of people in the world:
1) Those that can extrapolate from incomplete data
2)

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Originally Posted by desconhecido
There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Originally Posted by Doctor Morbius
I'm training for a metric half-century. Got any tips?
Drink a couple of cups of coffee. It'll motivate you to finish faster. That's just enough distance to cover before breakfast, and before needing to pee after drinking coffee.
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Originally Posted by Happy Feet
Over the years I've adopted metric for everything except temperature; my brain simply thinks in F (even though I know the basics in C).
From the aspect the overwhelming majority of the population uses temperature for, the weather outside, F is gradiented (is that a word?) far better. 0 is pretty cold, 100 is pretty hot, most everything else falls in between in a nice linear aspect. Quite a bit more intuitive than 0 being somewhat cold, 40 being pretty hot, and spending the majority of my winter under that scale and the summers tying to figure out exactly what to wear in the 10-25 range
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
I recently learned a new variation.

There are two kinds of people in the world:
1) Those that can extrapolate from incomplete data
2)

"Uh, oops"-Rick Perry.
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Originally Posted by TiHabanero
When did a 62 mile ride start being called a metric century?
For quite a long while and well before the turn of the century.
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In cycling, kilometers is used to make you sound like your doing more than you actually are. Hence " 100 kilometers/metric century". I rode 60 kilometers today, oh Wow How impressive!
We definitely have to use Miles as a distance indicator here in my "Country" of Texas. I mean who wants to say one thousand two hundred eighty seven kilometers when you can just say 800 miles.

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Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti
Except...NASA has used metric units for decades....it is only the tool citizenry and Congress and companies that insist on using it. The USA has among its distinguished list of accomplishments...being the only country to kill a $300,000,000USD Martian orbiter probe....due to the continued corporate use of Imperial units (Lockheed used them in their firmware, and didn't tell NASA).
This ^^. Also in medicine and dentistry (healthcare in general) everything is metric.

Originally Posted by desconhecido
There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.

Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
I recently learned a new variation.

There are two kinds of people in the world:
1) Those that can extrapolate from incomplete data
2)
I like yours better than ^^.

Originally Posted by Doctor Morbius
I'm training for a metric half-century. Got any tips?
32 miles? Just do it!

Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti
"Uh, oops"-Rick Perry.
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an imperial ruler ... there's a joke in there somewhere ... or maybe there isn't



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It is called a "Metric."

It is not a "Metric Century."
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Originally Posted by jefnvk
From the aspect the overwhelming majority of the population uses temperature for, the weather outside, F is gradiented (is that a word?) far better. 0 is pretty cold, 100 is pretty hot, most everything else falls in between in a nice linear aspect. Quite a bit more intuitive than 0 being somewhat cold, 40 being pretty hot, and spending the majority of my winter under that scale and the summers tying to figure out exactly what to wear in the 10-25 range
I think that's why I prefer gear-inches to meters-development, too.
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My 1975 college edition of the Merriam-Webster Dictionary defines century as "an aggregate of a hundred; Anything consisting of a hundred in number."

The current online Merriam-Webster gives this.................." : a race over a hundred units (such as yards, miles, or meters)"
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Back to the OP:

Originally Posted by TiHabanero
When did a 62 mile ride start being called a metric century?
How many times did you go out for 62 mile (no more, no less) rides before ever hearing of a "metric century"?
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Originally Posted by texaspandj
In cycling, kilometers is used to make you sound like your doing more than you actually are.
I'm curious: did an English "century" become a thing because people needed an "accomplishment" lesser than a brevet or randonee length? I mean, can't you just tell people you rode 100 miles?
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Originally Posted by Happy Feet
Meh.. that's how I feel about Imperial centuries now.
But what about imperial beer pints? Winning!
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Originally Posted by TiHabanero
When did a 62 mile ride start being called a metric century?
When all the bolts on my bike used metric allen wrenches?
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Originally Posted by jefnvk
When calling 160.9km a century sounded like a silly idea?
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There are two kinds of nations in the world. Those that use metric and those that put a man on the moon.
It is quite crowded up there, or so I was told

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Originally Posted by jefnvk
From the aspect the overwhelming majority of the population uses temperature for, the weather outside, F is gradiented (is that a word?) far better. 0 is pretty cold, 100 is pretty hot, most everything else falls in between in a nice linear aspect. Quite a bit more intuitive than 0 being somewhat cold, 40 being pretty hot, and spending the majority of my winter under that scale and the summers tying to figure out exactly what to wear in the 10-25 range
Now, from the POV of the real overwhelming majority of the population (unlike USA-only majority of the population), Fahrenheit temperature scale is completely meaningless and by far the most confusing part of USA measuring system. First of all, unlike any other measure, there is simply no easy way to convert C to F by just applying one multiplication, there is a whole conversion formula involved. Second, Celsius temperature scale is extremely intuitive and practical: 0 - water freezing point. Everything below 0 means freezing cold. And in practice it makes a big difference between ice, snow, exploded water pipes, frozen food vs just rain, cold water, cold food. And at 100 degrees water is boiling which is also a common event known to everyone. It is pretty easy to extrapolate between these two points (0 & 100) by everyday life experience.

Fahrenheit is meaningless. I can tell you right away that 20 degrees C is warm, or, at the very least, not too cold, without knowing very little about C. What is 20 in F? Who knows, zero in F is a temperature of "mixture of ice, water, and ammonium chloride" - how often do you deal with this mixture and what practical information it gives? Never and none - and this includes US folks as well. 100 degrees, AFAIR, was a body temperature of his feverish wife. How often do you meet with Fahrenheit's wife? Above 32 will be warm range, below 32 - frozen... Why?!! Why 32??? Crazy and broken by design system, dead everywhere in the world - except US.
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Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti
Except...NASA has used metric units for decades....it is only the tool citizenry and Congress and companies that insist on using it. The USA has among its distinguished list of accomplishments...being the only country to kill a $300,000,000USD Martian orbiter probe....due to the continued corporate use of Imperial units (Lockheed used them in their firmware, and didn't tell NASA).


This of course ignores the fact that Imperial units are defined by metric units, and have been since the late 1950s by international treaty. It is why 1 "inch" equals exactly 2.54cm....as opposed to the centimeter which is actually defined by a real physical phenomenon. So, strictly speaking, the USA is and has been using metric units for decades---just with an added layer of obfuscation on top.
The metric system is almost always superior to whatever it is you call the customary system (English or imperial or whatever) and yet it hangs on. In aviation, a mixed system of units is used. My favorite example is that lapse rate is sometimes given in official documentation as deg C/1000 ft.

As for the Martian probe cock up, the failure was that NASA did not publish and enforce standards. The SNAFU happened to be use of the customary units -- it could have been using something like kgf instead of N or Bar instead of Pa or g/cc instead of kg/m^3.
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Originally Posted by Leebo
But what about imperial beer pints? Winning!
You do win with imperial beer pints. You get 95 milliliters more beer than with a standard US pint.
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Originally Posted by Oso Polar
Now, from the POV of the real overwhelming majority of the population (unlike USA-only majority of the population), Fahrenheit temperature scale is completely meaningless and by far the most confusing part of USA measuring system. First of all, unlike any other measure, there is simply no easy way to convert C to F by just applying one multiplication, there is a whole conversion formula involved. Second, Celsius temperature scale is extremely intuitive and practical: 0 - water freezing point. Everything below 0 means freezing cold. And in practice it makes a big difference between ice, snow, exploded water pipes, frozen food vs just rain, cold water, cold food. And at 100 degrees water is boiling which is also a common event known to everyone. It is pretty easy to extrapolate between these two points (0 & 100) by everyday life experience.

Fahrenheit is meaningless. I can tell you right away that 20 degrees C is warm, or, at the very least, not too cold, without knowing very little about C. What is 20 in F? Who knows, zero in F is a temperature of "mixture of ice, water, and ammonium chloride" - how often do you deal with this mixture and what practical information it gives? Never and none - and this includes US folks as well. 100 degrees, AFAIR, was a body temperature of his feverish wife. How often do you meet with Fahrenheit's wife? Above 32 will be warm range, below 32 - frozen... Why?!! Why 32??? Crazy and broken by design system, dead everywhere in the world - except US.
Just curious. what pressure do you inflate your tires to, 100psi or 0.69 MPa ?
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