Why the Aerospoke hatred?
08-15-08, 02:03 PM
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08-15-08, 02:56 PM
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Wrong.
I have had Spinergy wheels, Aerospoke wheels, 36 hole spoke wheels, 32 hole spoke wheels, disc wheels, etc. and never once did any of them explode from hitting a pothole at an above moderate speed. I rode the Spinergy Rev X wheels (front and back) for 6 months and put over 1000 miles on them, still as solid and true as when I received them used with well over 5000 miles on them.
I'm not buying into the hype of exploding wheels, tragic losses and catastrophic failure.
People need to just chill out and not worry about what other people do and just ride their bicycles.
Ride the wheels for aesthetics, pleasure, weight, who the **** cares.
I have had Spinergy wheels, Aerospoke wheels, 36 hole spoke wheels, 32 hole spoke wheels, disc wheels, etc. and never once did any of them explode from hitting a pothole at an above moderate speed. I rode the Spinergy Rev X wheels (front and back) for 6 months and put over 1000 miles on them, still as solid and true as when I received them used with well over 5000 miles on them.
I'm not buying into the hype of exploding wheels, tragic losses and catastrophic failure.
People need to just chill out and not worry about what other people do and just ride their bicycles.
Ride the wheels for aesthetics, pleasure, weight, who the **** cares.
Whether or not you buy into it is one thing, but there is a documented history of failure with the Spinergy wheels.
Additionally, if you are going faster than a certain speed, it is actually less likely that there will be something wrong with just a pot hole as your wheel has less time to descend into the hole and impact the other side. you can take this to the extreme (albeit physically impossible), but at a certain point, you will be going fast enough that you will not even feel a bump.
Don't take me the wrong way, i am not against CF wheels, in fact if i had hundreds of dollars to spare, (and enough to cover a new set if something did happen) i might get some too. i am just saying that just because you were going fast, and nothing happened, does not mean everything people are saying about safety is wrong.
as for who cares what people ride, i agree. i am all for letting people ride whatever they want be it for fashion, for safety, or a downright death trap. The people that are so against it are mostly afraid that:
1) if/when something happens to a skilled/unskilled rider that is on a fixed gear or single speed bike, "upstanding citizens" who like to outlaw fun will move against the entirety of the sport that we all enjoy, and
2) that some of the people that are seen with bikes purely for fashion are ***holes (some of the people with "sensible" bikes are ***holes too, i know this for a fact) and due to their higher profile bikes, the impression they make on people outside of the fixed/singlespeed world is far more than someone with a fairly unremarkable bike.
believe me, i have seen this argument for years applied to various things like components for motorcycles, or even motorcycles as a whole.
sorry for the rant, the whole argument is somewhat silly, and it seems that every single sport i like has a different version of the same dang thing
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08-15-08, 07:51 PM
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08-15-08, 08:58 PM
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08-17-08, 05:26 PM
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08-17-08, 07:27 PM
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Carbon can't hang with the streets.
Truth be told, I always think less of a person riding carbon wheels on the street much like people on segways. Flags go up, ya know? Nothing wrong with riding them in the proper environment, but on the street is just asking to loose teeth purely for the wheel choice. I wouldn't keep em if you paid me to. I would sell them though and laugh my way to the bank. Oh, and eff velocities too. Open pro's is where it's at.
Truth be told, I always think less of a person riding carbon wheels on the street much like people on segways. Flags go up, ya know? Nothing wrong with riding them in the proper environment, but on the street is just asking to loose teeth purely for the wheel choice. I wouldn't keep em if you paid me to. I would sell them though and laugh my way to the bank. Oh, and eff velocities too. Open pro's is where it's at.
08-17-08, 07:40 PM
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And if you want to train, put some bricks in your bag, it's way cheaper and is way more badazz.
11-15-08, 11:55 AM
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11-15-08, 12:07 PM
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I ride an Aerospoke mostly because it looks good. I have it painted to match my saddle and handlebars, etc. I could do the same with a deep v rim, but they already had this pre-painted at my LBS and I like to support them.
Anyhow, I think the pros and cons are:
Con - Heavy/slow.
Pro - Durable (not sure why people are saying otherwise).
Con - People hate on you for having one.
Pro - Quiet (not sure why people are saying they are noisy).
Con - Expensive.
Pro - Looks good.
Anyhow, I think the pros and cons are:
Con - Heavy/slow.
Pro - Durable (not sure why people are saying otherwise).
Con - People hate on you for having one.
Pro - Quiet (not sure why people are saying they are noisy).
Con - Expensive.
Pro - Looks good.
11-15-08, 01:34 PM
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I just dont like the appearance of them. Plus for me, the owners come across as lazy because they dont know how to maintain spoked wheels. Not always the case, but for the newbies, yes.
11-15-08, 03:38 PM
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I'm too old to give a **** what some kid on a forum things about my wheels, frame, clothes, favorite band or anything else. I like my Aerospokes. They ride well...I don't find them slow at all despite a little extra weight but people talk about them like they're lead weights. I also have no problem saying that I think they look cool but if they were impractical to ride then I wouldn't use them at all:
11-15-08, 03:56 PM
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Open Pro laced to a Surly rear track hub with DT Swiss spokes, a rather modest build, I might add, weigh in at a whopping 697.7 grams according to prowheelbuilder.
A difference of 768.3 grams, probably close to double that for front and rear, we're just over 1.5 kg in what is arguably the place one is most likely to feel extra weight with no aerodynamic benefits, no added durability, you can't true them, and they cost twice as much.
But yeah, I guess they look cool.
11-15-08, 04:03 PM
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90% of everyone here has spoked wheels and don't know how to maintain spoked wheels. aerospokes are for looks. period. anyone here saying they bought 'em for performance should be posting in the track forum.
stylistically, they're cool. i think they look great. they're an expensive pair of nike dunks. no one is going around saying why the hell did you pay 200$ for those shoes, when you can play ball in a cheap pair of adidas, so i dont even get what argument is left.
aerospokes are an aesthetic choice. aesthetics are subjective. trends are social, take part or dont.
11-15-08, 04:07 PM
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According to the Aerospoke website those wheels weigh in at 1242 grams for the wheel + 224 grams for the rear track hub, for 1466 grams total.
Open Pro laced to a Surly rear track hub with DT Swiss spokes, a rather modest build, I might add, weigh in at a whopping 697.7 grams according to prowheelbuilder.
A difference of 768.3 grams, probably close to double that for front and rear, we're just over 1.5 kg in what is arguably the place one is most likely to feel extra weight with no aerodynamic benefits, no added durability, you can't true them, and they cost twice as much.
But yeah, I guess they look cool.
Open Pro laced to a Surly rear track hub with DT Swiss spokes, a rather modest build, I might add, weigh in at a whopping 697.7 grams according to prowheelbuilder.
A difference of 768.3 grams, probably close to double that for front and rear, we're just over 1.5 kg in what is arguably the place one is most likely to feel extra weight with no aerodynamic benefits, no added durability, you can't true them, and they cost twice as much.
But yeah, I guess they look cool.
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11-15-08, 04:21 PM
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I ride naked to make up for it. If I was a professional racer then I'd care about an estimated 1.5kg. But seriously I weigh 250 and $700 for a pair of wheel isn't going to break my bank...my CXP-33's with Phils and DT Swiss cost about the same. Actually the Aerospokes roll a lot smoother than any other wheels I've tried but then again I've gone and ****ed up the internet by actually trying something...my bad.
Can't say anything about them "rolling smoother" since that's completely subjective and utterly ambiguous.