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Old 09-05-17, 05:15 PM
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This is pretty messed up.

It's raining ash. The sky might as well be brown concrete. The sun is red. Can't see hills a few miles away. Everything smells like a campfire. Brimstone couldn't make this worse.

Seattle was inundated for half a month earlier this summer with smoke from the million acres of BC that were burning, now it's from local fires.



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...that's bad. We had a year like that two or three years back where all the smoke from a couple of big fires settled in the Valley. Stay off your bike.
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Old 09-05-17, 05:57 PM
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I look forward to an after work ride to help me deal with the stress of the day. But not lately. I'm breathing as little as I can.
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I fully empathize with you. In recent days we've had 100%-plus temps plus a ton of smoke in the air down here in California as well due to all of the wildfires and at times it has been really miserable. Last night, however, the glorious Pacific breezes started to kick in and we've cooled off dramatically and the smoke, while it has not disappeared, has been shifted around a bit to provide much needed relief.
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
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...that's bad. We had a year like that two or three years back where all the smoke from a couple of big fires settled in the Valley. Stay off your bike.

Yes. Good advice. That's what I'd been doing too until today when I finally got a ride in. Breathing all the muck in and driving it deep into your lungs can only hurt you.
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Bummer.

I spent my first 41 yrs up there, and I hate seeing things like that.

Btw, I've skied at Crystal a time or two.
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That sucks. Seems like the whole Western US is on fire.

Stay safe and pray for some cooler weather.
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Old 09-05-17, 07:34 PM
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I feel your pain. For the past week, I can't even make out the street light next door for the impenetrable smoke. We're not quite surrounded yet, so a steady west wind could break us out of jail here.
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Old 09-05-17, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
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...that's bad. We had a year like that two or three years back where all the smoke from a couple of big fires settled in the Valley. Stay off your bike.
Weren't you there in 1999? There was a beautiful August night of lightning. I happened to be out all night working and enjoyed every minute. It flashed all night long pretty much everywhere. The next morning was the last sunrise of summer. Those lightning strikes had started hundreds of fires, many of which got completely out of control.
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Old 09-05-17, 08:14 PM
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That sucks. Seems like the whole Western US is on fire.
it more or less is, either on fire or covered in smoke. Today was 70 degree's here in CO, I think mainly from the smoke which blew in yesterday evening.

Wildfire season in the US used to be 2 or 3 months a year, maybe 4 in a really dry year. Now it starts in March and doesn't seem to end till November. We had a really bad year here a few years ago and I just remember how depressing it was. All you saw and smelled was smoke. I went for a ride and was wheezing for days

What's even weirder is that while a big chunk is on fire, another big chunk is under Water and another big chunk is getting ready to possibly go under water.

is this the zombie apocalypse?
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Old 09-05-17, 08:46 PM
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If you think that smoke is bad, try working 16 hour shifts on the fireline for 14 days straight. You wouldn't believe what comes out your nose during a hot shower lol.
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The LA Tuna fire came over the ridge right behind our backyard.

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It's been like that for over two months here in bend Or. There are 13 fires within 100 miles of here, and with dry lightning forecast for Thursday & Friday, there will more.. I've been riding with a HIPAA fine particulate respirator so long, I don't even notice it anymore.
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I hear ya. We've had a summer of smoke here. I even snuck out of work early today to get a good ride in, but it was too smokey in my part of town to even try.
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The main building of the Sperry Chalet--a backcountry hotel in Glacier N.P. that dated to the 1930s--burned to the ground the other day. Last I heard, the nearly all of the west side of Going to the Sun Road is closed and everyone was ordered to evacuate that area.
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I really love riding my bike in the Methow Valley. It’s heaven on earth. The town of Mazama is under an evacuation order, along with Lost River (where my favorite winery is). Every time we go out there, the people treat us very well, it’s horrible what they’re going through.

Here’s a picture from Seattle this morning:

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Originally Posted by Ogsarg
That sucks. Seems like the whole Western US is on fire.

Stay safe and pray for some cooler weather.
I just saw this USFS model.

The Diamond Creek Campfire is up to 100,000 acres. It's burning up the last large sections of the Pasayten that were unburnt or ever will be in my lifetime. It was 100 % avoidable.



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Originally Posted by indyfabz
The main building of the Sperry Chalet--a backcountry hotel in Glacier N.P. that dated to the 1930s--burned to the ground the other day. Last I heard, the nearly all of the west side of Going to the Sun Road is closed and everyone was ordered to evacuate that area.
I've seen the Chalet, hoped to stay there one day.
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then again, "just smoke" doesn't seem so bad right now.

Described as the most powerful storm recorded over the Atlantic Ocean, the French weather office reported winds of 150mph (244kph) on St Barts before its weather-monitoring equipment was destroyed by the hurricane. Irma is now headed to Anguilla Island, the British Virgin Islands and east Puerto Rico. It’s expected to then reach Haiti and Florida.
Any cyclists in Florida, do not ride in this
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
I really love riding my bike in the Methow Valley. It’s heaven on earth. The town of Mazama is under an evacuation order, along with Lost River (where my favorite winery is). Every time we go out there, the people treat us very well, it’s horrible what they’re going through.

Here’s a picture from Seattle this morning:

Hieronymous Bosch always gets his point across. The man was way ahead of his time.
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Here's the sun at 4pm yesterday. And a cloudless day in the neighborhood. Welrd to be considering the indoor trainer in September. :/
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Old 09-06-17, 02:44 PM
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first cross race is this weekend and I'm sidelined due to weather
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Old 09-06-17, 02:54 PM
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That seems like a real pain in the ash...
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I think a lot of this needs to burn. Forest fires are natural processes and not burning isn't natural.

Forests which don't burn regularly are different from forests which do. Underbrush builds up without regular burning and then when fire does come it burns hotter and more intense, scorching the top layer of soil so that seeds can't germinate. This in turn leads to erosion and a domino effect ensues such that the land can become barren. Forests which burn regularly have less underbrush and fire is less intense.

I'm not advocating that we do nothing. It's just that the past 100 years of fire prevention has contributed as much to the conditions which caused this as it has helped prevent it.


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Old 09-06-17, 03:16 PM
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Pretty sure fire prevention isn't what led to the hottest summer on record, leading to record-setting dry conditions, leading to....
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