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Old 03-16-19, 06:14 PM
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Buying a safe?

Did anyone ever buy a safe? I am thinking of getting a small one. Probably a cubic foot or less. I have read that the big box store safes are pretty much a waste of money when it comes to theft. But the only thing I might keep in it is some personal papers and maybe $500 in cash. So if someone breaks in, it is probably not the end of the world and certainly better than what I have now.

So if you bought a safe, did you go with the big box store safe or did you go to a lock and sfe store?
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Are you planning on bolting it down?
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I bought one to secure a few valuables. The problem with small safes is that 1) you eventually find more and more things to put inside it, so buy a larger one now; and 2) a small one can be carried away and cut open in private if not bolted down. In fact, it's recommended that even large heavy safes be bolted to the floor or wall. I got mine at Tractor Supply.
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Bolt it.

It is time consuming to break into a safe so bolt it to the floor somehow so that it would be nearly equally time consuming so take it out.
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Bolt it. It is time consuming to break into a safe so bolt it to the floor somehow so that it would be nearly equally time consuming so take it out.
Or a fireproof in wall safe which is lag bolted into studs. Mine is covered with a painting. I keep copies of important papers, some Jewelry and a gun in mine. I keep the original documents in a safe deposit box at my bank.
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015D82XAS...detail_2?psc=1

Fort Knox Personal Handgun Safe PB4

There are cheaper places to find it online.
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Originally Posted by roadfix View Post
Are you planning on bolting it down?

Well part of the advice I wanted. Either bolt it down or place it in the basement floor. If I put it in the floor then I assume I am not buying something like that from a big box.
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Old 03-17-19, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Zinger View Post
Bolt it.

It is time consuming to break into a safe so bolt it to the floor somehow so that it would be nearly equally time consuming so take it out.
Well again. Supposedly the cheap safes are not hard to break into. From what I understand, with a little practice anyone can do it.
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Originally Posted by clemsongirl View Post
Or a fireproof in wall safe which is lag bolted into studs. Mine is covered with a painting. I keep copies of important papers, some Jewelry and a gun in mine. I keep the original documents in a safe deposit box at my bank.
I was thinking in the basement. I have a couple of out of the way corners most people would not think to look. The added benefit would be better fire protection. Though I suppose the whole hous can come down on it, if things get really bad,
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Too poor to have it matter... Going to pour it in concrete to keep the Safe safe?
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I bought a huge safe on Craigslist one time, it must have weighed 800 lbs. Kept it in my garage. Kept mostly guns in it, finally sold it when I sold off the guns.
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Old 03-17-19, 10:03 AM
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There probably isn't much value in here for you. I saw this recently and going it interesting.

Meet the Safecracker of Last Resort

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Originally Posted by spinnaker View Post
Well part of the advice I wanted. Either bolt it down or place it in the basement floor. If I put it in the floor then I assume I am not buying something like that from a big box.
The way I look at it is if you can afford to lose or are able to easily replace the contents of the safe then I would just get a small fireproof security box and hide it, even in-wall units.
As far as floor safes and heavy bolt down safes go I've seen a few on Amazon.
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Well again. Supposedly the cheap safes are not hard to break into. From what I understand, with a little practice anyone can do it.
Yeah from what I've read a hand drill and pliers will peel those. Might as well get something worth bolting down in the first place.

You want something challenging then get something with more than one locking dog, Like three. Round door safes are the hardest of all. Safes are made of thin layered metal so you can't just torch through them with an acetylene torch. You have to be good enough with a torch to wash slits in each layer, then torch through the locking dog.

So a round door safe needs the center cut completely out of it because it has locking dogs all the way around moved with a gear mechanism.

One thing about safes is that if someone breaks in to specifically target your safe, you can bet he was told about it by someone who has knowledge of it. Same for a home. Same for a business. The inside guy is who the detectives will be looking for to get him to turn over the safe thief.

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Old 03-18-19, 10:35 AM
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They don't have many problems getting into safes found in the storage lockers on Storage Wars.
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First have an expert assess your home security requirements.
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Safe walls are filled with concrete. Safe disposal could cost some money if it's too heavy for trash pickup and worthless at a scrapyard.
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I went with a Liberty Safe. One thing that I focused on was a mechanical lock. there are too many reports of electronic locks failing, making it very hard to open the safe.

Of course, opening the mechanical lock is quite hard. Probably because it has a non-standard sequence for using the lock, and I don't open it often.
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I went with a Liberty Safe. One thing that I focused on was a mechanical lock. there are too many reports of electronic locks failing, making it very hard to open the safe.

Of course, opening the mechanical lock is quite hard. Probably because it has a non-standard sequence for using the lock, and I don't open it often.
Now those look really nice. They should. They're spendy. The little home safe 8 even has more than one locking dog. If you concrete any of those into a building I'm guessing it'll take more than an hour to torch any of them open. (And no I've never done it. If I had I'd stfu, lol)

And if you're gonna spend the money for that then you should get an ultrasonic alarm setup of some kind to go with it.
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A good heavy duty Gun Safe, and there is no need to bolt it down.

It dang near needs a crane to move it and dynamite to open it.

There is some debate about vintage rotary combo locks vs new digital locks.

The old rotary locks can be a bit of a pain.
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My house came with one poured in the basement floor. The original owner who built it was in the coin novelty business (juke boxes, pinball etc) and came home with lots of cash.
My gun cabinet is bolted to the floor and wall in the basement.
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A small safe for burglaries? You could hide the valuables in an unlikely location instead.

And don't confuse a fire resistant safe with a valuables safe:

The action starts at 1:40.

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