seau grateau

I make my own vinegar.

TimothyH

How much do you charge for a liter?

Some of my hex wrenches need a soak.


-Tim-

TejanoTrackie 

I buy my vinegar in bulk from Sam's Club.

Scrodzilla

I make my own hex wrenches.

franswa

Sam's club is for conservatives and Costco is for liberals.

Spicy vinegar is the ****.

scoho

I'm looking to buy an old seatpost for a new project, and thinking of going with the Sugino Mighty Smooth instead of Nitto SP72.

Does anyone have experience with the Mighty Smooth? It seems like the bolt system might be kind of awkward.

veganbikes

I have some Thai bird chilis that have been soaking in coconut vinegar for about 2 years now. So good!

Scrodzilla

It's basically a copy of the Campy Nuovo Record and there's nothing overly awkward about it, you just need to tighten the bolts from the top using a 10mm wrench.

EnzoRWD

just received a nearly NOS rear der for new road build. Reminds of the good old days when Dura Ace was really pretty. The newer Shimano road groups do work much, much better but each year I brace myself for the ugliness.

TimothyH

Not the latest gen 105 brake calipers. I'm very disappointed.

Ironically, the calipers are the least ugly piece in the groupset.


-Tim-

franswa

Paired with Yokozuna cables and housing, mine can stop an elephant.

Leukybear 

Nice, 7800 was definitely one of my all time favorite groups. At the time it was perfect, even now the only short coming I had with the set was the side protruding shifter cable entry, that is after being spoiled by all the new group sets. Even then you could work around that by upgrading your levers to prev. gen 10 speed 105.

Funny to say, some people put their beauty cut off at 7700, right before the 7800 crankset kicked off the trend.

scoho

Thanks Scrod. From the pictures it looked like it would be tough to get a wrench in there with the saddle in place, and so hard to get the saddle adjusted properly and clamped down tight. But if that's not an issue, I think I'll give it a try.

EnzoRWD

Right - I've got a NOS 7700 crank. Hoping to use a 7800 front and rear der. No idea what to do on shifters. 7700 STI levers are all trashed now, but some 7800 new levers exists. Toying with using 7900 downtube levers and BL-R400 brake levers.

I might just continue to lurk on ebay waiting for some clean 7700 levers...

Here's the frame:

50voltphantom

^Oh man that length of the seat tube past the TT looks so nice.

TimothyH

I'm not saying they don't have stopping power.

Grab the caliper arm, the one with the quick release, and try to move it for and aft, front to back. Its as if the bushings are worn out. The arm on my front caliper moves enough that when I hold the front brake lever and rock the bike back and forth it clunks, feels like the headset is loose. Please let me know if yours are the same.


My old 5500 series 105 calipers don't do that nor do my Dura Ace calipers. The caliper arms are rock solid in relation to each other.

The 5800 felt inferior to the 5500 first time I rode the new groupset. It feels like the cables are stretching when the brakes are applied and initial bite is really poor. They both have lots of stopping power but there is no comparison in terms of feel and the 5800's are going away.


-Tim-

Leukybear 

Rear derailleur indexing is going to be the big issue.

Your 7700 shifters are 9 speed and won't be compatible with the 10 speed 7800 rear derailleur. They both have different cable pull ratios.
BUT you will be able to run a 9 speed rear with any shimano 10 speed shifter if you use alternative cable routing.

Here's a good guide: [iurl]https://www.sheldonbrown.com/derailer-adjustment.html#alternate[/url]

Get any 10 speed shimano levers and you will be able to run 7800 derailleurs. I personally would avoid 7800 levers unless you get them for a steal, which is hard to do these days for NOS or even minty used.

IMO 5700 levers aka 10-speed 105 shifts much smoother than 7800 and is much better designed with modern hoods and most importantly, shifter cable routing under the bar tape. The difference in weight is meager as well.

If you were to get friction shifters, you would avoid all of this and can practically pair any derailleur with any friction shifter. You'll have to give up the convenience of index shifting though and learn to "feel" when you're in a gear and not in-between gears though.

EnzoRWD

I thought all shimano 9-10spd stuff was cross compatible?

Anyways, more push to skip the 7700/7800 STI levers. I do have some 5700 levers in the shop. Wanted something silver, though. Still leaning toward the SL-7900 D-A 10spd downtube levers. Apparently Shimano still makes a retro-looking BL-R400 aero brake-only lever for their low-level road groups.

Leukybear 

Not mutually excluding the FD.

10 speed shifter would work with 9 speed RD with alternative cable routing; an easy work around.

9 speed shifter will not work with 10 speed RD easily at all. There might be a inline doo-dad that modifies the cable-pull to make it compatible but it would hard to come-by and pricey.

For best performance nonetheless, I'd opt for shifters designed for the same number of speeds.

JeremyLC

I have (for another couple weeks, anyway) a 10sp 105 rear derailleur mated to a 9sp cassette shifted with a 9sp indexed D-A barcon lever. It's quite functional, if not exactly ideal.

Leukybear 

Good to hear, it's a hit or miss trial-and-error crapshoot to get the ideal combination really.
So much so from my experiences and others who I have consulted with, that I cannot go around claiming to others openly that it would work.

I've tried on 4 different occasions with varying 9 speed shifters and 10 speed RD's to much limited success.
The best I've gotten was perfect downshifting but garbage upshifting.

Nevertheless, if you have a parts bin and time to kill or beer in need of drinking, it's worth a try.

JeremyLC

I just mounted that rear der. on there completely oblivious to the fact that it shouldn't work. At first it didn't quite work, but that was because the cassette was worn out.

EnzoRWD

I think I'll be sticking with the 10spd r der and 10spd shifters.

I've played with the almost-working drivetrain setups enough. The worst was the 8spd Command Shifters with a 8spd XC Pro r der on a 7spd Shimano cassette on my old tandem. I honestly had the bike years before I counted the cogs and realized why I could never quite dial it in. Now running Shimano 9spd STI levers, 9spd Deore r der on the 7spd cassette. Works perfectly.

jtbadge

Finally snagged some Nitto/Fairweather Bullmoose bars. Going on the Log Lady.

TimothyH

7Mesh Strategy Jacket