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Old 11-21-20, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
No holiday spirit around here, I guess.
That starts next Friday. Until then, no quarter.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
No holiday spirit around here, I guess.
Plenty here.
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Old 11-21-20, 05:39 PM
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I'm old too. Chronologically, anyway.
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Originally Posted by DougRNS
At 64 years old I don't have time for endurance rides - M Alpha
I think what he meant was he still does the distances, but lacks the time and patience to do them slowly, what with the Moloch ha-Moves on his wheel.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
There is no such thing as an outdoor Z1-2 ride if you live in hilly terrain and have a FTP < 4W/kg. I don’t even think about it anymore.
It would be impossible to keep my HR in Z1 or Z2 and get anywhere. Just getting to where the riding gets good is 7 miles and about 500 total feet of climbing, with 3 stretches of about 6% for about 1/2 mile each. I can't even imagine gearing that would allow me to stay inn Z2 on those
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Originally Posted by LAJ
I'm old too. Chronologically, anyway.
I work with one dev who was born in '97 and another who's even younger. I feel old.

Though the younger one did guess I was 25-30, so that felt good.
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Old 11-21-20, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by genejockey
As an aside, who decided you should either be in Z2 or Z5? Most of the gains I've made this year were made while going hard every ride.
Five days or more in a row? That's the context that I'm taking about. Going hard the whole ride, every ride, every day probably isn't going to end well.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Nice! Is that the Highway One bar?
It is!

I generally liked it on the 45 miles I did today. Couldn't tell at the very end if I was getting some nerve numbness or my pinky fingers were just getting really cold.

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Oh boy.
Oh boy indeed!

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Very nice!

I'd be tempted to go with bar-mounted bottle cages. SS bottles in there for fancy days, but regular squishy bottles for most rides for convenience and proper hydration's sake.
I briefly had a bar mount cage on this a few years ago, but didn't like it much. The clamps I have are reasonably discreet, but I certainly wouldn't mind some old TA cages with the single integrated clamp.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
I couldn't really do it until I made a decision to ride every day, regardless of how much I hurt, and boy did I have some hurty days. I quickly found that those easy days helped me recover more than taking the day off, but I'm sure that mileage varies. On my normal 3 day/week riding schedule, I probably wouldn't have the discipline to go easy... but then again, on that schedule, I don't think that I'd have the need to go easy.
I wish I had the discipline to get up early enough to ride every day. When the girls are here, that’s out the door by 5:30 to be back before they get up. I stay up too late a lot of nights and can’t manage it. I’d settle for 5 days a week
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Originally Posted by phrantic09
Same here, I’d rather almost puke from the effort of a hill than take it slow.
(insert cute little girl "Why Not Both?" meme here)
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Someone on Strava today referred to Knoxville as the East Coast.

Discuss.


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People here don't get it.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
I guess if you mean REALLY slow... I haven’t almost puked (or pooped) from a hill since my foot racing days, and I don’t remember liking the feeling.
It’s mostly short, sprint type hills that do it. A combo of pushing too hard and horrible post nasal drip I think.

I used to puke in basically every running race, once finished a 5k in like 18 minutes after having to stop and do it at mile 2.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
No holiday spirit around here, I guess.
Oh?
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Old 11-21-20, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DougRNS
Post ride mid afternoon meal. Up on the roof. #Drifters

I had a grilled chicken chipotle ceasar salad and the Mrs. had the same in a cobb salad. Had an incident with a motorist on my ride.

That's all I'm going to say about that - F. Gump
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Someone on Strava today referred to Knoxville as the East Coast.

Discuss.


People are teh dumbs. Even Charlotte isn't coast, and it's in a state that has coast. I strongly suspect no one in Knoxville would consider themselves east-coasters, and I can confirm that actual east-coasters would quickly refute that claim as well.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Someone on Strava today referred to Knoxville as the East Coast.

Discuss.


It is east of the Mississippi.
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And the Rockies.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Five days or more in a row? That's the context that I'm taking about. Going hard the whole ride, every ride, every day probably isn't going to end well.
Nah. I wasn't referring to your comment or the 5 days in a row.

I meant that training advice that one hears everywhere that Z3 and Z4 are "No Man's Land", and to be avoided. But hills aren't no fun unless you're banging on the door of Z5 by the end, if not solidly IN Z5, and what's the point of riding 6 miles of flat to gently rolling road if you're not going to pound along like its a time trial? It's no more fun than descending a non-technical hill where you can get up to 40 mph sitting up and hitting the brakes.

I mean, if you're not going to go for the available exhilaration, what's the point?
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Love it when they get the jets out in the humidity




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Originally Posted by phrantic09
I wish I had the discipline to get up early enough to ride every day. When the girls are here, that’s out the door by 5:30 to be back before they get up. I stay up too late a lot of nights and can’t manage it. I’d settle for 5 days a week
Yeah, that's pretty much what I did - out at about 5:45. I gave up on staying up late when I realized that I was getting old a couple years ago.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
People are teh dumbs. Even Charlotte isn't coast, and it's in a state that has coast. I strongly suspect no one in Knoxville would consider themselves east-coasters, and I can confirm that actual east-coasters would quickly refute that claim as well.
Everything East of the Mississippi looks like East Coast from here. It's like when you're flying West over the US at night and you pass the Mighty Mississippi, and suddenly the lights grow really sparse.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Love it when they get the jets out in the humidity




I'm still bummed that Top Gun 2 (or just about any other big budget movie) didn't come out this year.
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Originally Posted by phrantic09
It’s mostly short, sprint type hills that do it. A combo of pushing too hard and horrible post nasal drip I think.

I used to puke in basically every running race, once finished a 5k in like 18 minutes after having to stop and do it at mile 2.
Nice! That’s how you know you left it all on the course, so to speak.

My most spectacular bad physiological happening was after a 10k regional X-C championship in college, where I came through the chute and went right down with horrible vertigo. I was literally holding onto the grass so I wouldn’t fall off and had to crawl to the team van. Never beat that time either, on dirt or pavement.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Love it when they get the jets out in the humidity




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Originally Posted by genejockey
Everything East of the Mississippi looks like East Coast from here. It's like when you're flying West over the US at night and you pass the Mighty Mississippi, and suddenly the lights grow really sparse.
Still not "east coast". Not leastwise without being proximate to the coast.

That would be like me calling Oakland "basically LA".
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