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How do you know when your "Q factor" is right?

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Old 12-21-05, 01:21 AM
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How do you know when your "Q factor" is right?

Bought some Speedplay X-5s tonight and I'm kind of having a problem dialing in the lateral cleat position .

How should you feel fit-ise when you have your Q factor is correct? Is it better to have your feet too close together rather than too wide?
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I adjusted the Q factor so that my ankle won't hit the crank even with 9 degree of float.
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How should you feel fit-ise when you have your Q factor is correct?
When there is a perfectly straight line from your thigh, right through your knee, and into your feet. The guy who fitted me used a laser for this.
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Originally Posted by EURO
When there is a perfectly straight line from your thigh, right through your knee, and into your feet. The guy who fitted me used a laser for this.
used a laser for this
Is this something you can buy at Home Depot?
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When there is a perfectly straight line from your thigh, right through your knee, and into your feet. The guy who fitted me used a laser for this.
use sharks with frickin' laser beams on their heads.

Seriously, you don't need a laser to do this, a plumb line will work. While straughtis a good place to start, it can vary depending on the rider's ergonomics and comfort.
 
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I am not an expert in bike fit but don't think that cleat positioning is truly an adjustment of Q factor. Cranksets have different Q factors (distance between the outside surfaces of the cranks where the pedals are mounted). Some pedals are made with Q factor adjustments (you can adjust the "spindle length") but Speedplays do not offer that adjustment. I think that Q factor determines the alignment of the knee and the foot. Cleat adjustment, on the other hand (or foot, as it were), should establish the best contact point of the pedal with the foot.
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The majority of the accomplished riders I see tend to ride knees tilted in. Always wondered why.
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Is this something you can buy at Home Depot?
Yes. $29.99



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or you could tie a 1/2" nut to a piece of string...

my price .20p
buy it now
i accept paypal
order now for christmas delivery...
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Yes. $29.99

So how the heck would you use this on a cleat placement application?
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Originally Posted by EURO
When there is a perfectly straight line from your thigh, right through your knee, and into your feet. The guy who fitted me used a laser for this.
I very often agree with you, but using a laser for that is very much giving a a big F about a persons anatomy. That's just stupid.

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I always try to get it so I am close to the cranks as possible.. When the back part of your shoes rubs on the cranks, you are too close.
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your q factors right on when its in the middle of p and r.
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It would be really cool if once, just once, Americans would act like they weren't all a bunch of thirteen year olds about the human body. What I mean to say is, it would be great if none of you prudes clicked on "Spam" for Lectron's post, and just act like an adult, but I know you will...(It'll probably be the same person who foamed at the mouth over Buycycling's "Sex Issue." )
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The majority of the accomplished riders I see tend to ride knees tilted in. Always wondered why.
It just looks that way, due to large leg muscles.

A straight line Q setting would not work for a woman.
 
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Originally Posted by krispistoferson
It would be really cool if once, just once, Americans would act like they weren't all a bunch of thirteen year olds about the human body. What I mean to say is, it would be great if none of you prudes clicked on "Spam" for Lectron's post, and just act like an adult, but I know you will...(It'll probably be the same person who foamed at the mouth over Buycycling's "Sex Issue." )
That's the moral code, show all the dismembered soldiers of war (Heros) and graphic violence you want, even to kids, just don't show a nipple or Jebus will send you to heck.
 
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My Q factor is all over the map as they vary greatly from my track frame to my mountain bike. Never really cared about it.....
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Originally Posted by EURO
When there is a perfectly straight line from your thigh, right through your knee, and into your feet. The guy who fitted me used a laser for this.
What part of the thigh, knee and feet?
I am going to assume the center of knee and feet, but how do I find the center of my thigh?
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Q-factor is always right. Any information to the contrary is BS.
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Those speedplays have way too much adjustments. I just dont have pedals. I just stick my big toe into the crankarm
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Originally Posted by r8dr_rider
I just dont have pedals. I just stick my big toe into the crankarm
I tried this technique, but my big toes won't fit, and I lack the dexterity to use my pinkie toes. So I'm ovah heah using pedals like a commoner.
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I tried this technique, but my big toes won't fit, and I lack the dexterity to use my pinkie toes. So I'm ovah heah using pedals like a commoner.
Pheasants! You probably use a saddle too dont you. No saddle here. I like that direct to bike feeling. plus no saddle, pedals or handle bars means less weight. Yeah i just stick my finger in the stem and turn when needed. No brakes like those fixe kids and i manually change my gears by moving the rear derailleur by hand.
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Originally Posted by r8dr_rider
Pheasants! You probably use a saddle too dont you. No saddle here. I like that direct to bike feeling. plus no saddle, pedals or handle bars means less weight. Yeah i just stick my finger in the stem and turn when needed. No brakes like those fixe kids and i manually change my gears by moving the rear derailleur by hand.
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Pheasants?

Lmao! IPAs and auto correct doesnt mix well
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