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Old 01-26-20, 03:46 PM
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I use WD-40 and a rag to floss the cassette between chains. When doing a chain the cassette comes off for a thorough cleaning.
As for White Lighting, I've use Clean Ride, and Easy Ride, for dry conditions and Chain-L for wet/foul weather. YMMV
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Originally Posted by bampilot06 View Post
I’ve done the flossing method, I couldn’t reach the back of it, didn’t know the extremes people would go through to keep a cassette clean. I clean my chain with the brush and the degreaser, the lube it and after about 50 miles its really bad. Not using the best product. I was gifted white lightening or christmas, figured I would use the until it’s all gone.
Accept that a slightly dirty drivetrain is ok. The sooner you come to terms with this, the happier you will be.

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PS remember to wipe down chain really well after you lube it. That could be one of your issues. You want the chain dry on the outside and lubed at the rollers/inside.
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Meh it's coming down and will come down more when shimano goes wireless. I have 1750 in the new bike for components. Contadore was around 1600 for 11 speed whifi, from brake.
I hope you are right. I can wait another year or two. But the intel I have heard says Shimano unlikely to go to wireless shifting any time soon. I know about the patent they filed, but likely thatís for the distant future. Do you know otherwise??
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Kids and I are out and about in Richmond and I just got word that my FIL finally passed.

Sad, obviously, but I think there's some relief being felt, too. He'd been bedridden and incoherent for days. I know that the long, mostly sleepless overnights were taking a toll on my wife, too, and she was growing resentful towards her mother and brother because of the division of duties, etc.

I suppose we'll be here at least a few more days to help my mother in law navigate this new stage.

My sympathies to you and your family
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Old 01-26-20, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bampilot06 View Post
Iíve done the flossing method, I couldnít reach the back of it, didnít know the extremes people would go through to keep a cassette clean. I clean my chain with the brush and the degreaser, the lube it and after about 50 miles its really bad. Not using the best product. I was gifted white lightening or christmas, figured I would use the until itís all gone.
yek! Switch to rock and roll, or something else respectable. White lightening isn't great lube andvits messy.
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yek! Switch to rock and roll, or something else respectable. White lightening isn't great lube andvits messy.
+ 1 for Rock N Roll. I use their "Gold" version.

It's Gold, Jerry! GOLD!

p.s. for my beater SS I just use a home-brew of 75% mineral spirits and 25% motor oil. It's almost as good and dirt cheap.
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yek! Switch to rock and roll, or something else respectable. White lightening isn't great lube andvits messy.

will do, just want to use it all up before I buy something else. My friend swears by tri flow but I donít seem it mentioned much on here.

On another note. I leveled up today. Successfully clip in without looking and while actively pedaling. Iím ready for my tdf.
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I hope you are right. I can wait another year or two. But the intel I have heard says Shimano unlikely to go to wireless shifting any time soon. I know about the patent they filed, but likely thatís for the distant future. Do you know otherwise??
Only that they are losing sales to wireless 12 speed maker's. but just in the background noise kinda way. Nothing official.
I have to say that I did find some of what Sram did when they came up with the 12 speed stuff questionable. Larger rollers in the chain, 1.1 mm different size bb bearings . That god forsaken rear hub arangement. All to force the customer to spend money. No half upgrade, its all or nothing. $800.00 for a crankset? Wtf over? I kinda want Shimano to come out with something to slap Sram in the teeth a little bit for all of that.
It works well, I like it, but that Force stuff and the disk brakes are boat anchor heavy. I'm looking forward to riding Contadore, now that I have a Red compact crankset on him we are back close to 15lbs.
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will do, just want to use it all up before I buy something else. My friend swears by tri flow but I donít seem it mentioned much on here.

On another note. I leveled up today. Successfully clip in without looking and while actively pedaling. Iím ready for my tdf.
Pretty much all wet lubes are a mix of oil and a carrier/solvent. There may be flakes of magic graphite or nanoparticles of Teflon to reduce friction but I suspect they are all similar in effectiveness. The only downside to my cheap home brew is the mineral spirits take a couple days to evaporate, the better lubes use a more volatile solvent which means the chain is ready faster.

I am sure some experts can correct me if I am wrong. Where is the pedantic PenMan when we need him? Oh yeah, we are on a break.
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+ 1 for Rock N Roll. I use their "Gold" version.

It's Gold, Jerry! GOLD!

p.s. for my beater SS I just use a home-brew of 75% mineral spirits and 25% motor oil. It's almost as good and dirt cheap.
I'm experimenting again with wax. I'm using a bit (maybe 10%) transmission fluid with my mixture. Seams to help it flow. So far it's pretty clean, and appears to be lubricating well.
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I'm experimenting again with wax. I'm using a bit (maybe 10%) transmission fluid with my mixture. Seams to help it flow. So far it's pretty clean, and appears to be lubricating well.
Howís the noise?
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Pretty much all wet lubes are a mix of oil and a carrier/solvent. There may be flakes of magic graphite or nanoparticles of Teflon to reduce friction but I suspect they are all similar in effectiveness. The only downside to my cheap home brew is the mineral spirits take a couple days to evaporate, the better lubes use a more volatile solvent which means the chain is ready faster.

I am sure some experts can correct me if I am wrong. Where is the pedantic PenMan when we need him? Oh yeah, we are on a break.
next batch, use camp stove fuel or Naptha. Lighter fluid basically. It evaporated 4 times as fast and is about as volatile as mineral spirits. About the same price too.
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next batch, use camp stove fuel or Naptha. Lighter fluid basically. It evaporated 4 times as fast and is about as volatile as mineral spirits. About the same price too.
Will try.
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Howís the noise?
to my ears its quieter than oil based lubes. The bike on the trainer is Force /Rival with a 105 cassette . It's not loud at all, shifting is excellent.
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So a guy at work is just finishing up a 7 day water fast. He hasn't eaten anything in 7 days. Ho Lee Chit..
I cant believe I am concidering trying this. Am i nutz?
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So a guy at work is just finishing up a 7 day water fast. He hasn't eaten anything in 7 days. Ho Lee Chit..
I cant believe I am concidering trying this. Am i nutz?
I can not recommend it.
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will do, just want to use it all up before I buy something else. My friend swears by tri flow but I donít seem it mentioned much on here.

On another note. I leveled up today. Successfully clip in without looking and while actively pedaling. Iím ready for my tdf.
TriFlow is an excellent dry lube. I keep some in my tool box.
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Oops sorry todayís stage just ended. Itís also in Spanish.

But for future reference: live video (2020/vuelta-a-san-juan)
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Oops sorry todayís stage just ended. Itís also in Spanish.

But for future reference: live video (2020/vuelta-a-san-juan)

thanks, I did actually try to google, everything was last year....
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Kids and I are out and about in Richmond and I just got word that my FIL finally passed.

Sad, obviously, but I think there's some relief being felt, too. He'd been bedridden and incoherent for days. I know that the long, mostly sleepless overnights were taking a toll on my wife, too, and she was growing resentful towards her mother and brother because of the division of duties, etc.

I suppose we'll be here at least a few more days to help my mother in law navigate this new stage.
sorry for your loss.
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So a guy at work is just finishing up a 7 day water fast. He hasn't eaten anything in 7 days. Ho Lee Chit..
I cant believe I am concidering trying this. Am i nutz?
Yes. I say that as someone who has done multiple 24-hour stretches in the last few months with one or even zero meals.

Unless you're trying to clear out your GI, I don't see much of a benefit.
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Kids and I are out and about in Richmond and I just got word that my FIL finally passed.

Sad, obviously, but I think there's some relief being felt, too. He'd been bedridden and incoherent for days. I know that the long, mostly sleepless overnights were taking a toll on my wife, too, and she was growing resentful towards her mother and brother because of the division of duties, etc.

I suppose we'll be here at least a few more days to help my mother in law navigate this new stage.
Sorry to hear that. May he rest in peace. Please pass my condolences to your wife and MIL.
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