Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Fifty Plus (50+)
Reload this Page >

Anyone 50+ Using Incident Detection?

Search
Notices
Fifty Plus (50+) Share the victories, challenges, successes and special concerns of bicyclists 50 and older. Especially useful for those entering or reentering bicycling.

Anyone 50+ Using Incident Detection?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-30-20, 06:14 AM
  #26  
jppe
Let's do a Century
Thread Starter
 
jppe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 8,316

Bikes: Cervelo R3 Disc, Pinarello Prince/Campy SR; Cervelo R3/Sram Red; Trek 5900/Duraace, Lynskey GR260 Ultegra

Mentioned: 59 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 651 Post(s)
Liked 879 Times in 408 Posts
Well, it looks like from what I’m reading my Garmin 1000 might just have Incident Detection after all. Looks like an easy setup.

Btw, I’ve just added a free phone app where my wife can track where I’m located as well, at least where my phone is located. And I can see hers....This should really help when she supports me on tours, like this coming April.
__________________
Ride your Ride!!
jppe is offline  
Old 01-30-20, 06:27 AM
  #27  
bobwysiwyg
Senior Member
 
bobwysiwyg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: 961' 42.28° N, 83.78° W (A2)
Posts: 2,344

Bikes: Mongoose Selous, Trek DS

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 941 Post(s)
Liked 319 Times in 189 Posts
Originally Posted by jppe
Well, it looks like from what I’m reading my Garmin 1000 might just have Incident Detection after all. Looks like an easy setup.

Btw, I’ve just added a free phone app where my wife can track where I’m located as well, at least where my phone is located. And I can see hers....This should really help when she supports me on tours, like this coming April.
Strava provides a function called Beacon. My wife can track live in rides. We also use Life360 to do this routinely while driving. We have Android phones. Both, obviously require cell service. I mention this only because one of my regular routes in the U.P. does lose cell service near the south end of the lake at times. Should add, Life360 claims to have crash detection, but no proof of it's usefulness.. thankfully.

Last edited by bobwysiwyg; 01-30-20 at 06:31 AM.
bobwysiwyg is offline  
Old 01-30-20, 06:55 AM
  #28  
Koyote
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 7,877
Mentioned: 38 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6963 Post(s)
Liked 10,961 Times in 4,687 Posts
If you don’t want to buy a Garmin computer just for the accident detection, Specialized is now offering something similar on some of their helmets. It is called Angi. It will connect to your cell phone and send a text to a designated person if it detects a crash. I believe they sell the units as an aftermarket item, for other helmet brands. It’s about $50.

My new helmet came with this feature, so I use it on most rides. Of course, I don’t know what my wife will do if she ever gets that text message. Maybe she’ll call 911, and maybe she’ll just log onto eHarmony and start creating a profile in order to find a new husband.
Koyote is online now  
Old 01-30-20, 07:26 AM
  #29  
bobwysiwyg
Senior Member
 
bobwysiwyg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: 961' 42.28° N, 83.78° W (A2)
Posts: 2,344

Bikes: Mongoose Selous, Trek DS

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 941 Post(s)
Liked 319 Times in 189 Posts
Originally Posted by Koyote
If you don’t want to buy a Garmin computer just for the accident detection, Specialized is now offering something similar on some of their helmets. It is called Angi. It will connect to your cell phone and send a text to a designated person if it detects a crash. I believe they sell the units as an aftermarket item, for other helmet brands. It’s about $50.

My new helmet came with this feature, so I use it on most rides. Of course, I don’t know what my wife will do if she ever gets that text message. Maybe she’ll call 911, and maybe she’ll just log onto eHarmony and start creating a profile in order to find a new husband.
bobwysiwyg is offline  
Old 01-30-20, 11:22 AM
  #30  
jppe
Let's do a Century
Thread Starter
 
jppe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 8,316

Bikes: Cervelo R3 Disc, Pinarello Prince/Campy SR; Cervelo R3/Sram Red; Trek 5900/Duraace, Lynskey GR260 Ultegra

Mentioned: 59 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 651 Post(s)
Liked 879 Times in 408 Posts
Originally Posted by bobwysiwyg
Strava provides a function called Beacon. My wife can track live in rides. We also use Life360 to do this routinely while driving. We have Android phones. Both, obviously require cell service. I mention this only because one of my regular routes in the U.P. does lose cell service near the south end of the lake at times. Should add, Life360 claims to have crash detection, but no proof of it's usefulness.. thankfully.
Life360 is also the APP I just added for tracking purposes.

It took a little digging (finding the settings in Garmin Connect--it was under Safety of course.....) but I also just activated incident detection on my Garmin.
__________________
Ride your Ride!!
jppe is offline  
Old 01-30-20, 12:35 PM
  #31  
washed up
Senior Member
 
washed up's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Reality
Posts: 1,979
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 37 Post(s)
Liked 34 Times in 15 Posts
I have a Garmin 830 and use incident detection through my phone. I have had a couple rough stops which triggered the phone calls. I am usually able to get it stopped before the calls are made except for one time then I started getting calls from my kids and wife making sure everything is ok. I like the idea of knowing that I won't lay in the ditch for too long. lol
washed up is offline  
Likes For washed up:
Old 01-30-20, 06:38 PM
  #32  
Rajflyboy
Banned.
 
Rajflyboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Carolinas
Posts: 1,293

Bikes: Orbea

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 917 Post(s)
Liked 205 Times in 170 Posts
Just talked to a friend in Charlotte

It’s to the point you cannot ride on the roads safely around here

Too much growth too fast. With texting and with all the road construction and people not knowing where they are going because they are new.

get in a big group ride or go far out in the country as you can (love Valley for example) have your wife follow you in car or scooter

This is tough (I know)

helmet thing (specialized). They sell those at Bike Source Park Road shopping center.
Rajflyboy is offline  
Old 01-30-20, 06:52 PM
  #33  
GeneO 
Senior Member
 
GeneO's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: midwest
Posts: 2,528

Bikes: 2018 Roubaix Expert Di2, 2016 Diverge Expert X1

Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 482 Post(s)
Liked 151 Times in 105 Posts
Originally Posted by jppe
Life360 is also the APP I just added for tracking purposes.

It took a little digging (finding the settings in Garmin Connect--it was under Safety of course.....) but I also just activated incident detection on my Garmin.
Tried that app once. sucked up all my battery juice. Maybe it is better now.
GeneO is offline  
Old 01-30-20, 07:24 PM
  #34  
bobwysiwyg
Senior Member
 
bobwysiwyg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: 961' 42.28° N, 83.78° W (A2)
Posts: 2,344

Bikes: Mongoose Selous, Trek DS

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 941 Post(s)
Liked 319 Times in 189 Posts
Originally Posted by GeneO
Tried that app once. sucked up all my battery juice. Maybe it is better now.
Might be worth another try. We have Samsung S10's now, tons of battery power. Even our previous S6's handled both Beacon and life360 running simultaneously. Considering dumping Strava.😋
bobwysiwyg is offline  
Old 01-31-20, 08:46 AM
  #35  
TakingMyTime
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Los Alamitos, Calif.
Posts: 2,475

Bikes: Canyon Endurace

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1041 Post(s)
Liked 923 Times in 540 Posts
Originally Posted by jppe
It took a little digging (finding the settings in Garmin Connect--it was under Safety of course.....) but I also just activated incident detection on my Garmin.
Although I do not use the Incident alerting feature of my Garmin 520, I do use the Live Track feature. On a couple of long rides I've stopped to take a rest and I'll get a text from my wife asking me if I'm ok? When using this feature also remember to enable the Extend LiveTrack feature in the Garmin phone app. Just in case anything happens your data will still be live for 24 hours. I usually email 2-4 friends with each of my rides. Although this feature is reached through a link in your email, it does give you pretty accurate up to the minute tracking.
TakingMyTime is offline  
Old 01-31-20, 09:09 AM
  #36  
zebreaux
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Posts: 27
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
Liked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Thumbs up on the ANGI devise from Specialized. Comes attached to some helmets or as a stand alone add on and connects through blue tooth to your phone. I have one, it was on my new helmet. It will send a text message to my wife if it detects a significant impact along with my GPS location. It also has a count down from the time of the impact before it sends the message so I can stop an accidental message from being sent. Just extra insurance for somebody out by themselves. Nothing else required, other than the cell phone you probably already have, not much money. Potential life saver. I like it.
zebreaux is offline  
Old 01-31-20, 12:02 PM
  #37  
tony2v
Senior Member
 
tony2v's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: National City, CA
Posts: 590

Bikes: 1975 Albert Eisentraut, 1992 Bill Davidson, 2006 Moots Compact, 2007 KHS Solo-One, 2010 Van Dessel Drag Strip Courage, 2013 Alchemy Xanthus, 2016 Breadwinner Lolo, 2018 Moots VaMoots RSL, 2019 Chapter2 Tere Disc, 2020 Chapter2 Ao Limited Edition

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 31 Post(s)
Liked 32 Times in 16 Posts
I have the Incident Detection setup on my Garmin 520 Plus. It will text three contacts that I designated on my cell phone.
The Incident Detection sometimes goes off on sudden hard stops on rough roads, but you have 30 seconds to cancel.
The first time it went off, I thought WTH is making that noise. One reason I keep my cell phone in my jersey pocket.
tony2v is offline  
Old 01-31-20, 01:54 PM
  #38  
jppe
Let's do a Century
Thread Starter
 
jppe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 8,316

Bikes: Cervelo R3 Disc, Pinarello Prince/Campy SR; Cervelo R3/Sram Red; Trek 5900/Duraace, Lynskey GR260 Ultegra

Mentioned: 59 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 651 Post(s)
Liked 879 Times in 408 Posts
Originally Posted by Rajflyboy
Just talked to a friend in Charlotte

It’s to the point you cannot ride on the roads safely around here

Too much growth too fast. With texting and with all the road construction and people not knowing where they are going because they are new.

get in a big group ride or go far out in the country as you can (love Valley for example) have your wife follow you in car or scooter

This is tough (I know)

helmet thing (specialized). They sell those at Bike Source Park Road shopping center.
Thanks. We've lived here for 25+ years and growth is continuing at an accelerated pace. I'm still able to get out to lower traffic roads from the house but have to ride in traffic for 3-4 miles. But I'm planning to head up to the Love Valley area tomorrow for some more dirt road riding.
__________________
Ride your Ride!!
jppe is offline  
Old 01-31-20, 07:44 PM
  #39  
etw
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 570
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 36 Post(s)
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
The Road ID app will notify people when you are out o a ride and will notify them if you have not moved (presumably due to an incident) for a period of time. You do have the option to cancel the alert or pause the app if you are stopped for a break. It works well
etw is offline  
Old 01-31-20, 09:44 PM
  #40  
I-Like-To-Bike
Been Around Awhile
 
I-Like-To-Bike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Burlington Iowa
Posts: 29,972

Bikes: Vaterland and Ragazzi

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Liked 1,535 Times in 1,045 Posts
If I or my wife felt that bicycling was so hazardous that I needed to carry a specialized immediate warning/ "incident" detection system to feel comfortable with my bicycle riding, I would give up bicycling.
I-Like-To-Bike is offline  
Old 02-01-20, 12:34 AM
  #41  
Bmach
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,085
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 440 Post(s)
Liked 264 Times in 162 Posts
Ice dot.
Bmach is offline  
Old 02-01-20, 04:04 PM
  #42  
jppe
Let's do a Century
Thread Starter
 
jppe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 8,316

Bikes: Cervelo R3 Disc, Pinarello Prince/Campy SR; Cervelo R3/Sram Red; Trek 5900/Duraace, Lynskey GR260 Ultegra

Mentioned: 59 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 651 Post(s)
Liked 879 Times in 408 Posts
My wife enjoyed following my ride today via the Life360 app. Riding dirt and asphalt roads on a 40+mile loop about an hour from our house.
__________________
Ride your Ride!!
jppe is offline  
Old 02-01-20, 04:28 PM
  #43  
jimincalif
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Meridian, ID
Posts: 2,333

Bikes: '96 Trek 850, '08 Specialized Roubaix Comp, '18 Niner RLT RDO

Mentioned: 56 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 569 Post(s)
Liked 123 Times in 83 Posts
I have the Garmin 520+. I have both LiveTrack and incident detection enabled. LiveTrack went thru a several month period of being very unreliable after a Garmin Connect update in May 2019. Finally some half dozen updates later it seems to have settled down and mostly works.

I’ve had the incident detection go off maybe 8 times in 15 months, all false positives. Sometimes I don’t notice it and my wife gets a message. She’s leaned to check LiveTrack to see if I’m still moving.

I don’t know what sets it off sometimes, once it went off when I simply came to a stop at a traffic light. Smooth road, not a panic stop or other drama. Another time it went off in my driveway after I stopped the bike.

I did actually fall over once last year navigating a very tight switchback on a dirt trail in Whiting Ranch. I was barely moving and fell over, dislocating my left ring finger. The Garmin did NOT detect this one real incident.
jimincalif is offline  
Old 02-01-20, 06:03 PM
  #44  
cybirr 
Beer & Bikes
 
cybirr's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 106

Bikes: '20 Specialized Roubaix Expert, '20 Specialized Shiv Elite, '13 Specialized S-Works Epic

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 38 Post(s)
Liked 80 Times in 36 Posts
Originally Posted by jimincalif
I have the Garmin 520+. I have both LiveTrack and incident detection enabled. LiveTrack went thru a several month period of being very unreliable after a Garmin Connect update in May 2019. Finally some half dozen updates later it seems to have settled down and mostly works.
I wish that was my experience.

Garmin Edge 530 -- zero success at getting LiveTrack to function.
Road iD phone app "bread crumbs" -- unreliable, but likely the cell service provider deserves some of that blame.
Strava Beacon -- anecdotally has seemed the most stable but even that has failed me on several occasions.
Apple "Find My" app -- works every time... but doesn't update as fast as the other apps.

Saying that, I'll add I think for us aging cyclists the Road iD bracelet is a good add. Since I won't carry my wallet and the driver's license is a pain to remove I think carrying the Road iD on my person is a good thing to include. Probably for an invincible 20-something the weight penalty is too much but for me, I'm ok with it.
cybirr is offline  
Old 02-01-20, 07:12 PM
  #45  
Rajflyboy
Banned.
 
Rajflyboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Carolinas
Posts: 1,293

Bikes: Orbea

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 917 Post(s)
Liked 205 Times in 170 Posts
Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
If I or my wife felt that bicycling was so hazardous that I needed to carry a specialized immediate warning/ "incident" detection system to feel comfortable with my bicycle riding, I would give up bicycling.
better to be prepared than to be caught with you pants down
Rajflyboy is offline  
Old 02-01-20, 07:45 PM
  #46  
qcpmsame 
Semper Fi
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 12,942
Mentioned: 89 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1172 Post(s)
Liked 358 Times in 241 Posts
Originally Posted by jppe
We had yet another rider hit by a car this week. Young Pro Rider with badly damaged leg and brain surgery required. It’s our 4th in about a month.

Apparently Garmin and others might have gadgets available to let someone know if there’s an issue.

Anyone using something like that or even a remote mapping feature.

Asking for my wife.....she’s getting pretty nervous with all my solo adventures.

Have an Apple Watch 4, with fall detection activated to call my wife if I am down for over a specified time period. My iPhone will do the same without the watch also. With my Parkinson's Disease, its a peace-of-mind thing for her, and less to think about for me. My phone app to log rides also ties in to the alarms and all the above items are GPS enabled so they give a location to the designated recipient of the alert.

jppe , I encourage others to try these at least. I have no experience with Garmin, but as popular as they are with the cycling community, someone here can give you the gouge on them.

Bill
__________________
Semper Fi, USMC, 1975-1977

I Can Do All Things Through Him, Who Gives Me Strength. Philippians 4:13


qcpmsame is offline  
Old 02-01-20, 09:49 PM
  #47  
I-Like-To-Bike
Been Around Awhile
 
I-Like-To-Bike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Burlington Iowa
Posts: 29,972

Bikes: Vaterland and Ragazzi

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Liked 1,535 Times in 1,045 Posts
Originally Posted by Rajflyboy
better to be prepared than to be caught with you pants down
I find I enjoy my bicycle riding more, as well as ordinary living when not handicapped by irrational fear of being harmed and left helpless by extremely low probability events, such as lying immobilized on the side of a road or trail by an incident that requires immediate notification and rescue by a loved one.

My wife has enough confidence in my bicycle riding skill and experience and maturity to not take foolish risks so that she doesn't feel the need for tracking my whereabouts whenever I go out for a ride. If I should get into trouble, either I can call her or somebody from the police or EMT's will call her soon enough.
I-Like-To-Bike is offline  
Old 02-02-20, 07:29 AM
  #48  
Rajflyboy
Banned.
 
Rajflyboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Carolinas
Posts: 1,293

Bikes: Orbea

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 917 Post(s)
Liked 205 Times in 170 Posts
Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
I find I enjoy my bicycle riding more, as well as ordinary living when not handicapped by irrational fear of being harmed and left helpless by extremely low probability events, such as lying immobilized on the side of a road or trail by an incident that requires immediate notification and rescue by a loved one.

My wife has enough confidence in my bicycle riding skill and experience and maturity to not take foolish risks so that she doesn't feel the need for tracking my whereabouts whenever I go out for a ride. If I should get into trouble, either I can call her or somebody from the police or EMT's will call her soon enough.
“Dumb”

Oh it won’t happen to me theory
Rajflyboy is offline  
Old 02-02-20, 12:14 PM
  #49  
zebreaux
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Posts: 27
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
Liked 8 Times in 8 Posts
I was also dumbfounded but after I realized it was satire I laughed at my self for being so gullible.
zebreaux is offline  
Old 02-02-20, 01:59 PM
  #50  
I-Like-To-Bike
Been Around Awhile
 
I-Like-To-Bike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Burlington Iowa
Posts: 29,972

Bikes: Vaterland and Ragazzi

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Liked 1,535 Times in 1,045 Posts
Originally Posted by Rajflyboy
“Dumb”

Oh it won’t happen to me theory
I would recommend that a person should take up a new activity for better mental health if he is so fearful of what might happen when bicycling, regardless of the low probability, that he/she is willing to buy and carry any techno device available that promises even the remotest possibility of being useful after an extremely unlikely bicycling event (disabled and incommunicado and requiring immediate notification of a friend/relative).
I-Like-To-Bike is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.