Used DA 7900 vs. Brand New Force 22
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Used DA 7900 vs. Brand New Force 22
I'm building up a crit bike and I have the opportunity to get either used dura ace 7900 or brand new force 22. They would be the same price. Which one would be the better option?
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How used is used? SRAM's shifting action disgusts me personally -- If the 7900 was almost imperceptible from new stuff, i'd lean that direction
But --- YMMV
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I like Shimano stuff, but 7900 was a bit of a dud.
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Couldn't you get Ultegra 6800 for close to the Force price? Not have to mess with SRAM? I bought used 7900 and would not have if I had done more research. The shifters died pretty quickly. Found out later this is not unusual.
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I think 6800 is cheaper than Force 22 from the UK sites.
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Ditto. My favorite bike has DA 7900. I had DA 7800 on another bike until recently. My race bike has 105 5800. I loved the 7800 and love the 5800. 7900? Meh. The only thing keeping me from swapping the 7900 for 11 speed is the fact that I'd have several sets of 10-speed wheels and no bike for them.
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Ditto. My favorite bike has DA 7900. I had DA 7800 on another bike until recently. My race bike has 105 5800. I loved the 7800 and love the 5800. 7900? Meh. The only thing keeping me from swapping the 7900 for 11 speed is the fact that I'd have several sets of 10-speed wheels and no bike for them.
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Ditto. My favorite bike has DA 7900. I had DA 7800 on another bike until recently. My race bike has 105 5800. I loved the 7800 and love the 5800. 7900? Meh. The only thing keeping me from swapping the 7900 for 11 speed is the fact that I'd have several sets of 10-speed wheels and no bike for them.
I've never ridden the new SRAM stuff, I heard it's improved a lot from early 2000s when it wasn't so good.
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Ultegra 6800 or Force 22. Can't go wrong with either. Except I'm seeing the same cable breakage with Ultegra. And SRAM's warranty service is better.
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Force 22 is really nice. I don't think it's as nice as Ultegra, but it's still pretty great.
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I have two bikes with 7900. Never had a problem. Interesting to see it has a bad rep. But then again, I know how to touch a lady. There's a lot of bikers out there that don't know the difference between a cone wrench and a tap and die set. I think that probably explains most of the complaints.
I have had problems in the past with SRAM. Specifically disc brakes. So, not too sure about the road group-sets. The force stuff does look real clean. It would be a toss up for me if the 6800 and Force set's were the same price. Wait, no. I would go 6800. I would say go 7900, if you're handy with your hands, if you know what i mean...
I have had problems in the past with SRAM. Specifically disc brakes. So, not too sure about the road group-sets. The force stuff does look real clean. It would be a toss up for me if the 6800 and Force set's were the same price. Wait, no. I would go 6800. I would say go 7900, if you're handy with your hands, if you know what i mean...
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I have two bikes with 7900. Never had a problem. Interesting to see it has a bad rep. But then again, I know how to touch a lady. There's a lot of bikers out there that don't know the difference between a cone wrench and a tap and die set. I think that probably explains most of the complaints.
I have had problems in the past with SRAM. Specifically disc brakes. So, not too sure about the road group-sets. The force stuff does look real clean. It would be a toss up for me if the 6800 and Force set's were the same price. Wait, no. I would go 6800. I would say go 7900, if you're handy with your hands, if you know what i mean...
I have had problems in the past with SRAM. Specifically disc brakes. So, not too sure about the road group-sets. The force stuff does look real clean. It would be a toss up for me if the 6800 and Force set's were the same price. Wait, no. I would go 6800. I would say go 7900, if you're handy with your hands, if you know what i mean...
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I have two bikes with 7900. Never had a problem. Interesting to see it has a bad rep. But then again, I know how to touch a lady. There's a lot of bikers out there that don't know the difference between a cone wrench and a tap and die set. I think that probably explains most of the complaints.
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Honestly, the entire last generation of 10 speed Shimano stuff was forgettable at best. New generation is night and day better and you can get 6800 group from Ribble for under $550 right now. They have Force for $25 more if you prefer SRAM but it comes down to presence
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To be clear I never had any functional issues with 7900, my only complaint, which is subjective I guess, is it wasn't as "smooth" as the 7800 stuff that came before it. Shimano corrected that problem in a major way when they released DA9000.