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Enve vs Zipp vs Hed?

Old 11-21-19, 11:57 PM
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Oh, but Zipp has all those golf ball divots.. they have to be FAST!!!
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Old 11-22-19, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
Wait, first you're telling me AliExpress are the fastest wheels, and now you're telling me the world isn't flat? WTF?
I'm not telling you which wheels are fastest, only linking a test. I'm also not saying if the world is flat, or not. Just stating that many believe it's flat.
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Old 11-22-19, 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by noodle soup View Post
I'm not telling you which wheels are fastest, only linking a test. I'm also not saying if the world is flat, or not. Just stating that many believe it's flat.
A test that was supposed run after hours using up tens of thousands of dollars worth of equipment time as well as acquiring the wheels yet not a single image taken?
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Old 11-22-19, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by noodle soup View Post
You realize that many people believe the earth is flat.
Hambini counts on it.
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Old 11-22-19, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by redlude97 View Post
A test that was supposed run after hours using up tens of thousands of dollars worth of equipment time as well as acquiring the wheels yet not a single image taken?
So if a manufacturer takes photos of a wheel being tested, that confirms the results of the test?


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Old 11-22-19, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by spdntrxi View Post
Enve.. only neg is price.. quality,aeroness and warranty are there.
HED.. price is good, performance is good.
Zipp.. why bother.. they lead in nothing.. expensive and hubs are ok at best.
I don't think this is accurate. I would say Zipp, HED, Enve
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Old 11-22-19, 10:24 AM
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Save a lot of money and buy some BOYD wheels, in my opinion.
+++ on this. I've had a set of Boyd 44mm disc brake wheels on my road bike for the past two years and think they are the best thing since sliced bread. I'm coming to the wheels from a set of Reynolds Assaults. I cannot recommend the Boyd wheels enough. Customer services has been fantastic whenever I've contacted them with questions. Give them a look.
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Old 11-22-19, 11:08 AM
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There was a post a couple of days ago about the Trek/Bontrager warranty. The wheels have a 2 year 100% replacement policy (mostly), followed by lifetime replacement/repair for 1/3 to 1/2 the retail price of new. Lots of fine print... but, in general, it might be worthwhile to see what other vendors offer too.
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Old 11-22-19, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post
Oh, but Zipp has all those golf ball divots.. they have to be FAST!!!
Marketing.
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Old 11-22-19, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post
Oh, but Zipp has all those golf ball divots.. they have to be FAST!!!
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Marketing.
But they claim its wind tunnel tested.
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Old 11-22-19, 12:38 PM
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And they have pretty graphs, with different colors!
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Originally Posted by cycledogg View Post
I don't think this is accurate. I would say Zipp, HED, Enve
that's your opinion and you are welcome to it... I've stated mine is all.... but you can't say it's inaccurate.
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Originally Posted by spdntrxi View Post
Enve.. only neg is price.. quality,aeroness and warranty are there.
HED.. price is good, performance is good.
Zipp.. why bother.. they lead in nothing.. expensive and hubs are ok at best.
Originally Posted by cycledogg View Post
I don't think this is accurate. I would say Zipp, HED, Enve
Originally Posted by spdntrxi View Post
that's your opinion and you are welcome to it... I've stated mine is all.... but you can't say it's inaccurate.
Enve and HED make quality wheels, and Zipp spends a crapload convincing consumers they make quality wheels.
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Old 11-23-19, 05:12 AM
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Zipp wheels are nice. I've had a few sets. But they have had issues with their hubs for close to 20 years now.

Hed and Zipp wheels also are nice. They have not had hub issues.
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Old 11-24-19, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
It's amazing how wheels that have never seen a wind tunnel could be so much faster than ones whose prototypes spent dozens of hours in them. How does that work? I can understand copying a known commodity and matching its performance, but...?
Start with a mythical narrative.
Enter test with preconceived notion.
Confirm bias.
Publish report - or even better, make a Youtube video.
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Old 11-24-19, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by noodle soup View Post
The big names are't always the most aero.

https://www.hambini.com/blog/post/bi...ne-is-fastest/



Interesting how there close the correlation between rim depth and power is. Not perfect but the trend is obvious.
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Originally Posted by wallacb3 View Post
I am researching the best set of disc wheels for my road bike. I am not sure which would be best, and am currently looking at Zipp 303 or Enve 3,4/4.5 disc wheel sets, or even Hed, although I am not familiar with the line up in they have. I want a medium depth aero wheel. I had a 302 previously and liked it a lot. Any suggestions with pros and cons, particularly those from personal experience, would be very welcome.
How do you define "best" and why do you believe you will find the "best" wheel in the medium depth category. Imo the best wheels at those that wont break, wont get out of true, have hubs and a free hub that last, is low maintenance and wont blow you off the road. Only then aero or weight is of any concern.
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