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Old 10-13-19, 05:49 AM
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Why I love good old fashion NEWSPAPERS...

Now I don't mean old fashion in any political sense... I just mean paper... the paper version of the daily news.

For one, you can quickly scan all the stories on a page, determine what you might want to read.

An ad, or cookie discaimer, or request for donation will never suddenly pop up on you.

Your page doesn't suddenly reformat.

You can actually see a couple of paragraphs at a time.

The paper will never suddenly start making sounds, from an ad you didn't look at.

And of course, you can wrap your dead fish in it when you finish.

It's Sunday... I gotta go get a paper.
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And it doesn't disappear when the DRM server goes down or the publisher gets bored and wants to work on something else.

I'm right there with you. I brought my paper in from the curb a couple hours ago.
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Dog, coffee, newspaper, and slippers. Maybe some bad pastry too. Recipe for a traditional Norman Rockwell-esque Sunday morning.
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They are sometimes heavily sleeved in ads though. I got tired of pulling those sleeves off the various sections and discontinued. My choice is traditional newspaper in digital format on tablet. It's just a hyperlink to continued stories and I can clip stuff I want to save long term.

To clarify not the pay gate version on the web, but a digital replica of the paper version.
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We have often taken two papers... a local, and a Sunday... a larger paper such as LA Times or Seattle Times.

For a while, we took three papers.

My wife complained that she just didn't have time to read it all. So she canceled them all. I read all my news from the net, listened to radio and watched a couple of news programs to get my info fix.

Recently, she admitted that she missed the Sunday paper... which often went more in depth on the stories of the week, and carried larger social sections. We are taking the Sunday paper again.

I still go to the net to get cross stories and BBC et. al. But I love my newsPAPER.
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Originally Posted by Lemond1985 View Post
Dog, coffee, newspaper, and slippers. Maybe some bad pastry too. Recipe for a traditional Norman Rockwell-esque Sunday morning.
Amen! Thanks Norman. Heck, I don't even need slippers.
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Originally Posted by genec View Post
Now I don't mean old fashion in any political sense... I just mean paper... the paper version of the daily news.

For one, you can quickly scan all the stories on a page, determine what you might want to read.

An ad, or cookie discaimer, or request for donation will never suddenly pop up on you.

Your page doesn't suddenly reformat.

You can actually see a couple of paragraphs at a time.

The paper will never suddenly start making sounds, from an ad you didn't look at.

And of course, you can wrap your dead fish in it when you finish.

It's Sunday... I gotta go get a paper.
These are good reason to love the Sunday paper. The lack of BS popping up is probably better for your Blood pressure too. Another reason to like it is, you can clip an article out, and save it for posterity. You know you will always have it.
At a place I used to work, we would read the paper, and drink coffee before we got busy. I miss that.
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Whenever I travel, one of the first things I do after I roll into town is buy a local newspaper and read it front to back. It can really help you to understand the issues and people of the town you're staying in. It also helps you in the tavern that evening in order to bring up a local subject and discuss it with the patrons.
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I had a 5 day a week subscription to the local paper right up to 3 years ago.

I changed or the newspaper's content changed, but I found less and less I wanted to read in it. Too bad, as I had been a subscriber on and off for decades, and I even threw that paper as a paper boy in the 1970s.

My best usage for the local paper now is to use it as protective material while painting or working on some sort of project. I still have a small pile in the garage for that.
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I get town papers in the mail every week whether I want to or not. I guess the advertisements pay for it. After I read them they go straight to the kitchen credenza for draining, wrapping, whatever. We never run out.
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To keep this on topic (ie related to bicycles) - newspaper works far better than any electronic media in cold or wet weather to stay warm. (Watch the pro bike races when they go over mountain passes. No, not highlights of the leaders but the real footage showing the small team domestiques who crest the passes long after the hotshots. They don't get hand-ups of nice team jackets. They pull out a sheet of newspaper and stuff it under their jersey, just like was done 200 years ago.)

When it comes to important stuff, like staying away from hypothermia on a mountain descent, newspapers rule, smartphones suck.

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Since i get no on-site advertising/third-party ad tracking with my subscriptions to the washington post, le monde and the atlantic monthly (ios only) i like the ease of use in getting each digitally on either my MacBook, iPad or iPhone. For those that do it also means keeping the trees needed and not being involved with the pollution created by the wood pulping industry for newspapers.

eta....i dress appropiately for the rides i do so no need to stuff something under my clothes.... and those that don't recycle their paper products aren't too smart.
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To keep this on topic (ie related to bicycles) - newspaper works far better than any electronic media in cold or wet weather to stay warm.
Just don't use the circulars if it's raining. From an aborted tour last year where it rained the entire time and was cold and I forgot to pack my rain pants.

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Since i get no on-site advertising/third-party ad tracking with my subscriptions to the washington post or the atlantic monthly (ios only) i like the ease of use in getting both digitally on either my MacBook, iPad or iPhone. For those that do it also means keeping the trees needed and not being involved with the pollution created by the wood pulping industry for newspapers.

eta....and those that don't recycle their paper products aren't too smart.
Not discounting any pollution, but trees for paper are farmed. Just like a crop of corn.

Driving through the piney woods of east Texas one can see the "fields" of trees at different stages of growth after the individual times of harvest.

As far as electronic devices (that we all own) how much pollution was created to make the plastic casings, circuitry, batteries, carrying cases, etc.? Resources used to create those items? Is the energy to make and power these devices solar, wind, water (dam), or natural gas and coal? How about the source of energy to power the server farms of the "cloud" or power our devices? Plus the energy for all the 4G and 5G towers and wireless routers elsewhere that transmit data to us all.

Then there is all of the packaging for all these devices for protection and shipping. Cardboard, printing ink or toner, plastics, etc.

I'm not giving up my devices, but I don't believe newspaper, magazines, and paper books are that big a drain on the planet anymore. Especially, since the "demise of print" has been going on for some time and near the bottom with all the consolidations of newspaper companies and magazine publishers.
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eta....and those that don't recycle their paper products aren't too smart.
How do you recycle toilet paper?
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Not discounting any pollution, but trees for paper are farmed. Just like a crop of corn.

Driving through the piney woods of east Texas one can see the "fields" of trees at different stages of growth after the individual times of harvest.

As far as electronic devices (that we all own) how much pollution was created to make the plastic casings, circuitry, batteries, carrying cases, etc.? Resources used to create those items? Is the energy to make and power these devices solar, wind, water (dam), or natural gas and coal? How about the source of energy to power the server farms of the "cloud" or power our devices? Plus the energy for all the 4G and 5G towers and wireless routers elsewhere that transmit data to us all.

Then there is all of the packaging for all these devices for protection and shipping. Cardboard, printing ink or toner, plastics, etc.

I'm not giving up my devices, but I don't believe newspaper, magazines, and paper books are that big a drain on the planet anymore. Especially, since the "demise of print" has been going on for some time and near the bottom with all the consolidations of newspaper companies and magazine publishers.
The real irony, as a librarian professional recently reminded me, is that books last a long time, on the right paper, centuries.

Electronic media on the other hand, is quite volatile... and requires not only storage, but also a "suitable media reader..." data stored on tape or old floppy discs may no longer be accessible. And one "Carrington Event" could wipe out huge amounts of current Internet servers and their data.

Books will be readable for decades if not longer. Even crappy newsprint will last a few decades. (I know, we found old newspapers in our 1953 walls when doing a remodel, back in 2005.)
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The real irony, as a librarian professional recently reminded me, is that books last a long time, on the right paper, centuries.

Electronic media on the other hand, is quite volatile... and requires not only storage, but also a "suitable media reader..." data stored on tape or old floppy discs may no longer be accessible. And one "Carrington Event" could wipe out huge amounts of current Internet servers and their data.

Books will be readable for decades if not longer. Even crappy newsprint will last a few decades. (I know, we found old newspapers in our 1953 walls when doing a remodel, back in 2005.)
You still need a “reader.”


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Not discounting any pollution, but trees for paper are farmed. Just like a crop of corn.
I agree with what you said except to add I've been seeing mentions of Canadian boreal forests being cleared for paper and paper-like products.
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+ 1 on this. Newspaper works great on my Webster chimney firestarter,
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We have a really excellent local paper, however, they could never deliver it on time or at all. I got tired of constantly calling them. I get my news electronically now. I do miss having the paper to mask off when I'm painting.
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I agree with what you said except to add I've been seeing mentions of Canadian boreal forests being cleared for paper and paper-like products.
They don't replant up there?

One thing about packaging I didn't touch on is if a product is made in China, the packaging is probably made in China as well. I wonder if the Chinese replant their trees used for paper or not? I have a feeling they might not.

Edit to add:

Looks like harvesting and replanting is regulated in the Boreal.

https://www.nrcan.gc.ca/our-natural-...l-forest/13071

https://www.pellet.org/images/Harvesting_in_the_Boreal_Forest.pdf

https://www.sfmcanada.org/images/Pub...Forests_EN.pdf

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