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Old 12-25-20, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
What does she want to photograph?
Mainly outdoor stuff. She'll probably want to shoot some cyclocross. I've seen her looking at the Nikon D5600, so that's the ballpark budget.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
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And pics of Benson. Goes without saying.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
Mainly outdoor stuff. She'll probably want to shoot some cyclocross. I've seen her looking at the Nikon D5600, so that's the ballpark budget.
I would hold off on that 5600 for now. There are some changes rumored in the wind that might make that outdated. Might take a few weeks, how much patience does she have?
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Originally Posted by rjones28
And pics of Benson. Goes without saying.
My age is showing, and so is my car mind.

Jeez. Benson. My apologies.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
I would hold off on that 5600 for now. There are some changes rumored in the wind that might make that outdated. Might take a few weeks, how much patience does she have?
She's not in a hurry.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
She's not in a hurry.
If you can stretch the budget just a bit, I would consider this: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/canon-e...?skuId=6204312

Its a bit smaller form, and a size that women who have not shot seriously typically like. Cameras like that have a lot of features that make it easier to learn the art.

The lenses that come with cameras such as the D5600 and comparable Canon’s are junk and very limiting. Hard to get creative results with them due to their characteristics. If she goes that route, I recommend buying just the body, and buying a separate lens that is higher quality in the 24-105mm range. The better lenses will be a bit more expensive, but you can often find nice used lenses at good prices. The good thing is that good lenses really hold value. There is no used market for the low end lenses.

Coincidentally, yesterday I sold one of the Canon “big whites” that I bought used 10 years ago for $200 less than I paid for it.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
If you can stretch the budget just a bit, I would consider this: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/canon-e...?skuId=6204312

Its a bit smaller form, and a size that women who have not shot seriously typically like. Cameras like that have a lot of features that make it easier to learn the art.

The lenses that come with cameras such as the D5600 and comparable Canon’s are junk and very limiting. Hard to get creative results with them due to their characteristics. If she goes that route, I recommend buying just the body, and buying a separate lens that is higher quality in the 24-105mm range. The better lenses will be a bit more expensive, but you can often find nice used lenses at good prices. The good thing is that good lenses really hold value. There is no used market for the low end lenses.

Coincidentally, yesterday I sold one of the Canon “big whites” that I bought used 10 years ago for $200 less than I paid for it.
I know zip about cameras, but daughter 2 just got a Canon Rebel T7 and she seems quite pleased with it. Cost is a little lower than above so it may be of mediocre quality. I don’t know cameras.
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Wow, locked out of lots of pages...
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Got very close to 42 in today. The ride overview map is pretty sweet, with only Surprise showing on it.

Afternoon Ride

Mostly Sunny, 68°F, Feels like 68°F, Humidity 13%, Wind 1mph from E
  • Distance
    41.93 mi
  • Elev Gain
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Got very close to 42 in today.

Afternoon Ride

Mostly Sunny, 68°F, Feels like 68°F, Humidity 13%, Wind 1mph from E
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Originally Posted by datlas
I know zip about cameras, but daughter 2 just got a Canon Rebel T7 and she seems quite pleased with it. Cost is a little lower than above so it may be of mediocre quality. I don’t know cameras.
The camera is fine, and that is a really good place to start. I’ll bet she is excited. Tell her to save for a 24-105 f4, and if she can get there to get it. Far, far better than the lens that came with her camera. Much better sharpness, contrast, color, etc. Watch FB marketplace and CL when she gets to that point. Cost new is about $800, but used about $500.

Back when I got into digital photography about 18 years ago, I bought one of those L lenses. My wife, who knows next to nothing about photography, noticed the difference between that and my other lower end lenses immediately, the differences were that great. But, hard to spend that kind of money starting out and not knowing if you will stay in it.

In photography, it’s all about the glass, not the body.

Ive been into photography since college, and when my kids were involved in sports took a deep dive into digital. Got into sports photography in a big way when the kids were in high school. Always happy to answer questions.
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When I graduated from college my parents got me a Cannon T7. Back then I was into surfing and my best friend was a film major at VCU. I had pretty high aspirations to start making surfing movies. Only got one short film made and my interest in movie making fizzled. Still have the camera and like the idea of getting into photography, but when ever I take a picture it never looks as spectacular as I wish to portray. I wish I could bring one flying with me, early morning and evening I see some pretty spectacular scenery. For obvious reasons that isn’t allowed.

New bottle cage is on the bike. New torque wrench worked as advertised. Going to be 20 degrees tomorrow when I clip in. So will prolly only do about a 20 miler. 90 miles to go for 5k.
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Originally Posted by big john
Stupid cat sunk his claws into my hand this morning. Minutes later he's meowing for his breakfast like a sweet little kitten.

Anyway Merry Christmas to everyone on the forum and thanks again for allowing me to be a part of the conversation. I really appreciate it.
As self appointed content quality supervisor of this thread, i encourage your continued participation in this conversation. All are welcome here especially since social interactions in real life are curtailed due to the virus.

Speaking for myself, the addition of some new blood has been positive and I enjoy hearing from people who are from different areas.
My personal thank you's to the newer "blood" who have become active this year. This is from memory so forgive me in advance if I forget to mention a name or two.
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I'm pretty sure I'm missing some but Merry Christmas to all and happy New Year.

Please join me in telling 2020 to go **** yourself.

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Originally Posted by DougRNS
As self appointed content quality supervisor of this thread, i encourage your continued participation in this conversation. All are welcome here especially since social interactions in real life are curtailed due to the virus.

Speaking for myself, the addition of some new blood has been positive and I enjoy hearing from people who are from different areas.
My personal thank you's to the newer "blood" who have become active this year. This is from memory so forgive me in advance if I forget to mention a name or two.
abshipp and bampilot (i mix you two up)
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The dude from saratoga, NY (I Confuse you with the guy from the DC/Maryland area - Kisstheapex)
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I'm pretty sure I'm missing some but Merry Christmas to all and happy New Year.

Please join me in telling 2020 to go **** yourself.

Might want to wait til the year is actually over.........
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
Might want to wait til the year is actually over.........
Yeah. You don't want it to hear......
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I rode 24 virtual miles today in Virtual France. But I did take Rango for a walk IRL.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
I rode 24 virtual miles today in Virtual France. But I did take Rango for a walk IRL.

how was the weather in virtual france?
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I rode 24 virtual miles today in Virtual France. But I did take Rango for a walk IRL.
Kudos. I rode 35 real miles. It felt like more because it was on my CX bike and I was on the verge of hypothermia.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
When I graduated from college my parents got me a Cannon T7. Back then I was into surfing and my best friend was a film major at VCU. I had pretty high aspirations to start making surfing movies. Only got one short film made and my interest in movie making fizzled. Still have the camera and like the idea of getting into photography, but when ever I take a picture it never looks as spectacular as I wish to portray. I wish I could bring one flying with me, early morning and evening I see some pretty spectacular scenery. For obvious reasons that isn’t allowed.

New bottle cage is on the bike. New torque wrench worked as advertised. Going to be 20 degrees tomorrow when I clip in. So will prolly only do about a 20 miler. 90 miles to go for 5k.
A lot of that has to do with post processing.

On the other note, I’ve enjoyed the conversations as well. Also have been inspired to ride more and push my limits. Thanks to all for that!
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All this Christmas stuff sure has me jonesing for some snow. Unfortunately there's not even snow in Flagstaff right now

Maybe come January Flag will get hit.

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Finally snowing here.

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Originally Posted by bampilot06
how was the weather in virtual france?
Started about 55 degrees and 65% humidity, but it was 61 and 76% by the time I was done.
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Originally Posted by DougRNS
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Speaking for myself, the addition of some new blood has been positive and I enjoy hearing from people who are from different areas.
Everyone here is good people. It's a nice place to hang out.

Merry Christmas everyone
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Looks like I'm going to end up just shy of 3000 miles for the year. 140 miles to go and 7 days, and a number of them likely to be rainy, including this Sunday.
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