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Old 04-13-14, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by furiousferret
He's right, 80% of the riders have never ridden in a pack before but insist on jumping in your rotating paceline.
This is the premise of the famous Yelling thread, you know.

And I agree: I feel much safer in a race than I do in a group of charity riders. It's kind of the same way that I feel safer on a motorcycle than a car.
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More clinics will help. For someone brand new it's all a mystery so the faster they get into one the better. I learned the first steps from training rides with the Pro/1/2 team from my club but not everyone gets that. More clinics, easy to find the and having experienced riders laying down some tough love.
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Originally Posted by kleinboogie
I learned the first steps from training rides with the Pro/1/2 team from my club but not everyone gets that. More clinics, easy to find the and having experienced riders laying down some tough love.
Me, too. And that's what I would have always suggested, getting plugged into a club with some experienced people and riding as much as you can with them.

But this whole Strava phenomenon has really changed the group ride dynamics where I live. It's really insane. Instead of those good, long, steady rides so essential to getting in the miles and getting to know everyone, every hill is a KOM and dropped riders are left to their own.

Any one else notice this? It seems really hard to find just a good, steady ride that doesn't turn into a race at every point.
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the key is to be soo much stronger than everyone else that their race is your z2.
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Originally Posted by jsutkeepspining
the key is to be soo much stronger than everyone else that their race is your z2.
I'm thinking of the newbies, not myself.
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Originally Posted by ovoleg
I guess I haven't done the charity rides you guys are talking about cause the ones around here are filled with super slow people riding 14mph for 7 hours ride time and 14 hours total time to complete a century.
The ones around where I live have the front group finishing in 4:20 or less.
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Originally Posted by EventServices
This is the premise of the famous Yelling thread, you know.
DING!

My favorite thread ever.
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Originally Posted by needmoreair
I'm thinking of the newbies, not myself.
Absolutely. They're a great group of guys but when they start that Strava crap I sit up.
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Originally Posted by needmoreair
Me, too. And that's what I would have always suggested, getting plugged into a club with some experienced people and riding as much as you can with them.

But this whole Strava phenomenon has really changed the group ride dynamics where I live. It's really insane. Instead of those good, long, steady rides so essential to getting in the miles and getting to know everyone, every hill is a KOM and dropped riders are left to their own.

Any one else notice this? It seems really hard to find just a good, steady ride that doesn't turn into a race at every point.
I never put the two together but now that you mention it, it explains a lot of the rides I've been on.
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Originally Posted by needmoreair
I'm thinking of the newbies, not myself.
wait doesn't everyone start out being a cat 1 equivalent?
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Guy that was in my clinic 2 years ago beat me today in my race. I'm proud of him, proud that he's learning the art of bike racing.
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Originally Posted by jsutkeepspining
wait doesn't everyone start out being a cat 1 equivalent?
They do on the internet!
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