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2017 vs 2018 Synapse Tiagra. Is 2018 worth $300 more?

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Old 06-07-18, 02:29 AM
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2017 vs 2018 Synapse Tiagra. Is 2018 worth $300 more?

Looking at getting a new bike. From what I understand the 2018 synapse is for sure improved some with the frame. That being said I found a 2017 synapse for 1000 bucks that is also tiagra. 2018 will be about 1400 after tax Both are aluminum frames. So is the 2018 worth spending the extra cash? I may be putting fenders on it at some point but I don't think I would put wider tires on it ever.
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Are both bikes disc brake bikes? New, NOS, or Used?

Much of the hype I'm seeing about design changes appear to have to do with the carbon fiber bikes. I'd be curious how much of that holds for the aluminum alloy bikes.

A little added tire room would likely make mounting fenders easier, but may not be necessary if you aren't mounting the larger tires.

Depending on where you're buying the bike, you will get better support and warranty support if you buy a new bike. You'll have to determine the value of that to yourself.

Hard to say. If there is a difference of rim vs disc brakes, then you'll have to decide how valuable that single feature is to your needs. Otherwise, I bet you would have a tough time differentiating between the two bikes.
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Yeah both brand new and both disc. From what I read the 2018 is suppose to be lighter stiffer and more comfy and a little more aggressive geo.
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Originally Posted by Sdjclevland
Yeah both brand new and both disc. From what I read the 2018 is suppose to be lighter stiffer and more comfy and a little more aggressive geo.
since the geometry is apparently different, ride both and pick the one you like more.
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Originally Posted by Sdjclevland
Yeah both brand new and both disc. From what I read the 2018 is suppose to be lighter stiffer and more comfy and a little more aggressive geo.
As a rule, you can count on two things.

1) This year's bike is AMAZING compared to last year's bike
2) Last year's bike can generally be found on sale for 20-40% less than this year's bike.

Personally, I like saving money so unless there were some compelling reason, I'd get the one on sale. As the fellow above said - ride them both and pick the one you like better, even if it's just the paint.
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Lots of people hunt for the year-end closeouts, and I suppose this is what one encounters, a slow evolution of the models.

I think these are the geometry charts:
2017:
https://static.evanscycles.com/produ...etry_Chart.pdf

And 2018:
https://www.cannondale.com/en/USA/Bi...6-9d32b07d5023

There are indeed some changes to the specs. I'm not seeing any notes of huge weight savings. In fact, the 2018 may be heavier than the 2017. Both are supposed to be close to 10 kilos, 22 lbs.

My guess is you'd be happy with either bike.
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Wider cassette on the new one. Flat-mount calipers instead of post-mount. Braze-on FD. Slightly better tires. More tire clearance.

These are mostly distinctions without difference. You won't be able to tell them apart.
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Originally Posted by alexdi
Wider cassette on the new one. Flat-mount calipers instead of post-mount. Braze-on FD. Slightly better tires. More tire clearance.

These are mostly distinctions without difference. You won't be able to tell them apart.
If you ever choose to mount a rear rack, then rear calipers inside the rear triangle are superior.

However, the 2017 photos I'm seeing seem to show the inside triangle mount brakes.

For conversion to hydraulic, the most "modern" might be of a benefit, but no sense planning a really expensive upgrade ahead.

That orange/red paint on the new bike looks sharp. Not the drab colors of last year.
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Paint aside, there is one notable difference in the geo charts: trail. The new bike has slacker head angles across the board. The old one will feel a little less stable, a little more maneuverable.
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Thanks for the replies. I am still waiting to ride the 2017 aluminum bike which I hope I can do this week coming up but I I have to say I do like the feel of the 105 se compared to the regular synapse 105. The difference is nothing crazy but it is different The small change in tire width and seat is what is what I am feeling the most along wth more stability with the se

What does suck is the Geomety is differit for 2018 and on top of that I am in between sizes to make my life even harder so I feel when I ride the 217 it won't be a fair oompairision in a way

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Originally Posted by Sdjclevland
What does suck is the Geomety is differit for 2018 and on top of that I am in between sizes to make my life even harder so I feel when I ride the 217 it won't be a fair oompairision in a way
You aren't buying a bike for the neighbor down the street. You are buying one for yourself, so buy the one that fits you best, and is the most comfortable/responsive to you.

"fair" doesn't count

Unless, of course, the issue is that you are test riding one that is the wrong size, and the shop will have to order the right size in.

I believe a person can easily adapt to at least a small range of bike sizes, (and getting the stems and etc you desire) with slight differences such as bar drop.
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