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Old 07-20-09, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by bellweatherman View Post
They, aka Astana, can't get caught. Bruyneel is a dirty mofo. They do their same tricks and the UCI does nothing about it.

They'll never test positive because there is always time to manipulate urine and blood before the testers take samples. The UCI is very complicit in all of this. Allowing certain riders to take a half-hour, even a full hour to go get ready for so called "unannounced" drug testing. The national drug agencies are aware of how corrupt the UCI is. Even this year, after the whole Armstrong showergate scandal, Bruyneel was up to his tricks again, and stalling to get his team a full hour to prepare for their "unannounced" drug test the day of the team time trial.
So Bellweatherman,

What do you contend that they are doing to prepare during this 1/2-1 hour? Running a catheter up their urethra and injecting fresh urine? Accomplishing a complete blood transfusion? I.V. feeding plasma? I'm curious.
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Old 07-21-09, 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Keith99 View Post
Funny how many people in the 60s and 70s loved Merckx. My wife is German and reports when she was a teen and preteen all the kids in her village loved Merckx. One should remember that Rudi Altig was active at the time and at the time was also the best German cyclist ever.
Many people love Armstrong also.
I wasn't alive in the 60s/70s, but I would be very surprised if Merckx was universally liked by cycling fans back then...

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What do you contend that they are doing to prepare during this 1/2-1 hour? Running a catheter up their urethra and injecting fresh urine? Accomplishing a complete blood transfusion? I.V. feeding plasma? I'm curious.
There was a big debate in Germany a couple months ago, after two players from a rather prominent soccer club (Hoffenheim if you want to look it up) let the doping controllers wait 15 minutes before giving their samples, and they almost got banned because of it. Apparently there's a lot you can do and take to tamper with the sample in even such a short amount of time.

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Old 07-21-09, 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by bigfred View Post
So Bellweatherman,

What do you contend that they are doing to prepare during this 1/2-1 hour? Running a catheter up their urethra and injecting fresh urine? Accomplishing a complete blood transfusion? I.V. feeding plasma? I'm curious.
Lance is a millionaire, and therefore has the cutting edge science to go undetected... / sarcasm. It is clear that the whole Astana team is clean. Until they test positive, we have to give them the benefit of the doubt, just like your employer gives you the benefit of the doubt when you don't test positive for a drug test.
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Old 05-11-19, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by DenisMenchov View Post
Lance is a millionaire, and therefore has the cutting edge science to go undetected... / sarcasm. It is clear that the whole Astana team is clean. Until they test positive, we have to give them the benefit of the doubt, just like your employer gives you the benefit of the doubt when you don't test positive for a drug test.
I haven't logged into BF for a long, long time. Given the test of time, this response is hilarious.
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Originally Posted by challaday View Post
I haven't logged into BF for a long, long time. Given the test of time, this response is hilarious.
Speaking of things from 2009 that are hilarious now...

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Old 05-11-19, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BillyD View Post
Well, addressing your puzzlement, it's because they think he cheated. They take it personally because they feel he got over on them, outsmarted them.

One thing you must admit, winning 7 straight tdf is an outrageous accomplishment, so it's bound to raise suspicion. I can understand that. But I feel that hey, if you can't find anything and if you can't prove anything then you need to leave the man the F alone and enjoy history.

But noooooooo, they can't stand the thought of an American kicking their ass in "their" sport. It's just too bitter a pill for them to swallow. F 'em!!
Bravo!
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