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Old 08-11-19, 02:44 PM
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Anyone else feel this way on their weekend rides?

after commuting year round for several years, I feel like my friends canít keep up with me, but I get dropped easily during the local group rides out of the nearby LBS. weird spot to be for sure
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That's pretty much why I'm a solo rider. I'm faster than casual recreational riders, but I'm slower than just about anyone that does a weekend morning LBS ride.
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If you want to get faster, ride with the faster group.

OTOH, there will always be a faster group.
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Old 08-11-19, 06:45 PM
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You plateau in the mushy middle if you always ride the same intensity, which is easy to do on the commute.
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Originally Posted by caloso View Post
You plateau in the mushy middle if you always ride the same intensity, which is easy to do on the commute.
^ nailed it.

Full disclosure: I donít care about being fast I just wanna have fun on my weekend rides lol!

thinking of buying a trainer....
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Originally Posted by downtube42 View Post
If you want to get faster, ride with the faster group.

OTOH, there will always be a faster group.
This is quite Zen
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Old 08-11-19, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by davei1980 View Post
This is quite Zen
Yup!
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I'm 6'4 230 pounds and 73 years old. I never get dropped because I ride alone. The past 3 years I've lost 65 watts to age and disease. On the flats and more so on climbs I seldom pass anyone. OTOH on 30-45 second seated sprints on the flats and on non-technical descents it is a different game.
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Originally Posted by caloso View Post
You plateau in the mushy middle if you always ride the same intensity, which is easy to do on the commute.
What he said ^^^^. It's the speed/intensity surges that are getting you. Some interval training and a little pack savvy (where to be protected) will have you yucking it up on Saturday mornings in no time.
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Old 08-12-19, 04:17 AM
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Anyone else feel this way on their weekend rides?
Originally Posted by davei1980 View Post
after commuting year round for several years, I feel like my friends can’t keep up with me, but I get dropped easily during the local group rides out of the nearby LBS. weird spot to be for sure
Originally Posted by caloso View Post
You plateau in the mushy middle if you always ride the same intensity, which is easy to do on the commute.
Originally Posted by davei1980 View Post
^ nailed it.

Full disclosure: I don’t care about being fast I just wanna have fun on my weekend rides lol!

thinking of buying a trainer....
Originally Posted by nomadmax View Post
What he said ^^^^. It's the speed/intensity surges that are getting you. Some interval training and a little pack savvy (where to be protected) will have you yucking it up on Saturday mornings in no time.
See this thread, “Commuting as Training.”
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I literally started commuting because I was training for a triathlon. I was frustrated because I was blowing off a lot of my bike workouts that I had scheduled for the evening. I'd ride the bus home and sit on the couch and never make it back outside.

I had this genius idea that if I had my bike with me at the end of the work day I'd be forced to ride it and I might as well do the workout I had planned.
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I'm fortunate to be a daily year-round cycling commuter early in the morning, with a pleasant, minimal one-way distance of 14 miles, easily lengthened during the nice weather. My commute is really my only chance to train.

I had long rejected the idea of intervals because getting on the Road early is a challenge itself, and I didn't want to lose my enthusiasm by punishing myself too much....

Intervals on the road during a defined commute are more variable than what one can do on a trainer. I have quickly learned that I must watch out for traffic and not pay too much attention to the stopwatch on my cycle computer. Sometimes the stopwatch times out during an interval and I have to reset.

Often the terrain is out of synch with the interval, e.g. downhills on the intensity interval, uphill on the rest interval, with stoplights interspersed.

As mentioned above I just use “Rating of Perceived Exertion” (RPE) as my monitor (see subsequent post)…

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Old 08-12-19, 06:52 AM
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In my opinion

Originally Posted by davei1980 View Post
after commuting year round for several years, I feel like my friends canít keep up with me, but I get dropped easily during the local group rides out of the nearby LBS. weird spot to be for sure
I feel the same way sometimes. I have noticed that when I commute 4-5 days a week and then go out for the LBS ride I am tired. I think it is because I am riding all week and my body gets tired. I think the people who ride like Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday they can recover a bit more and are fresher.
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Old 08-12-19, 08:05 AM
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weekend rides?

do you mean like running errands around the neighborhood or riding with the kiddos to the beach/zoo/pool/playground/etc.?

bike commuting probably constitutes >95% of my annual bike mileage. i haven't been on a "recreational ride" in years.
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Old 08-12-19, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by FiftySix View Post
That's pretty much why I'm a solo rider. I'm faster than casual recreational riders, but I'm slower than just about anyone that does a weekend morning LBS ride.
This.

I only ride by myself.

But I finish first every single time!
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Old 08-15-19, 06:50 PM
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I'd been riding solo for years but in the back of my mind I knew I'd eventually get to a point when I'd want to ride with a group. I did that this year. I was mostly able to hang with the group of local guys I met through Strava. But I also did longer solo rides on the weekends, so my fitness wasn't confined to the 20-km ride I do Monday to Friday.
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This.

I only ride by myself.

But I finish first every single time!
And you're tied with the last place guy !
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I to like riding alone, sometimes the wife comes along but then mostly on the tandem.
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Originally Posted by Skipjacks View Post
This.

I only ride by myself.

But I finish first every single time!
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And you're tied with the last place guy !
Yeah...but you should see how tight the pack is. Exactly one bike length the whole time!
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Originally Posted by Skipjacks View Post
Yeah...but you should see how tight the pack is. Exactly one bike length the whole time!
I can practically hear Phil and Bobke breathlessly calling this one a spectacular photo-finish, too close to call !!!!!
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And you're tied with the last place guy !
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I can practically hear Phil and Bobke breathlessly calling this one a spectacular photo-finish, too close to call !!!!!
Ricky Bobby said "If you're not first, you're last"

I don't like to be boxed in like that. I can be both!
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You plateau in the mushy middle if you always ride the same intensity, which is easy to do on the commute.
I think commutes are most likely shorter than group rides. Any extraordinary ride will leave you hanging behind. Best thing to do is just get used to those long rides and pace yourself for them. Keeping up should then be no problem. I was falling behind on the climbs but would lead the flats. Learned to trail someone in the flats and hit it hard on the climbs. Worked out.
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I used to commute to college and, later, a job but in over 50 years of riding a bike, I have never once been on or interested in riding with a group. I prefer riding alone and ride purely for recreation. Cycling for me is like hiking - best pursued and enjoyed alone. My wife doesn't ride, my kids don't ride, and the people I know who do ride are into the racing aspect of it, whether on the road or trails. Zero appeal for me.
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I used to commute to college and, later, a job but in over 50 years of riding a bike, I have never once been on or interested in riding with a group. I prefer riding alone and ride purely for recreation. Cycling for me is like hiking - best pursued and enjoyed alone. My wife doesn't ride, my kids don't ride, and the people I know who do ride are into the racing aspect of it, whether on the road or trails. Zero appeal for me.
Your post reminds me that I don't like being in groups in other methods of transport as well. I used to spend some weekends in my past riding in groups of motorcyclists. It's so restrictive, and it impedes the natural flow of traffic. It might as well be a funeral procession without the police escort.

My favorite size group whether on motorcycle or bicycle was two to four riders and no more.

I like the hiking analogy. I think of my current bike riding like solo canoeing.

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For a brief time in the late 80's, I joined a local Alfa Romero club when I'd bought a new Spider Veloce. I enjoyed the club and our social events but what I ended up realizing I didn't like were the rallies. My wife and I would often simply split off and meet up later. These was pre-cellphone days so you couldn't call anyone to say you were separating from the group.

That was a good lesson for me. I do very few group activities although I'm a member of a number of groups. I like my alone time; I see enough people most days to get my fill.
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I only want to enjoy my ride, be safe.

A road cyclist gave me the impression that it’s not always fun (going fast, faster) in group. And I guess not everyone wants to be a pro.
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