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Old 05-16-19, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Tusk View Post
Sarcastic comment.

NBC commentators spent a good bit of time leading up to this bragging about the women's race. The race happens and we hear snippets from a female talking head about the race situation and then see the last 100 meters of the race. While they talk about the men's race. If you want to successfully promote women's racing, at least give it some air time.

Ah, sarcasm. Got it.
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott View Post
10k is the new 3k if you're TJ in USA.
Nice illiteration I'm just going to ignore the whole last 10km of that stage

How dumb, boring as heck then TJs wrapped in a bike!? Blasts past the turn I was incredulous. Then I see a huge piece of plastic and blam! What a comedy of errors.

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Nice to see someone other than Quickstep win today's stage. Higuita is pretty good too.
Sergio is my hero today
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Old 05-16-19, 07:32 PM
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And three days. Pathetic. It's like they don't think the women can handle it, yet they brag on it. The infrastructure is there, use it.

They did the same thing last year with the women's race during le Tour. I don't even remember the name of the event, that is how successful they were.
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Originally Posted by OldTryGuy View Post
Scary, spooky, frightening, OMG !!!! Happy he stayed upright and lasted.
He explained that last year he had a couple bad crashes during descents. Apparently he was still a bit nervous descending.
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Old 05-16-19, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia View Post
He explained that last year he had a couple bad crashes during descents. Apparently he was still a bit nervous descending.
I think everyone was

But Alex Hohn didn't seem to makeup any time against him on the decents
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Old 05-17-19, 03:58 AM
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Slightly off-topic, but noticed Ineos has been almost exclusively using rim-brake F12's all week, even on fast descent stages. Maybe I'm a fan of that team after all.
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott View Post
10k is the new 3k if you're TJ in USA.
Probably because it's less a race than a showcase.

I find it interesting that the usual jury-haters on BF are notable by their quietness on this.
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Old 05-17-19, 10:31 AM
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TJ should not have been allowed to jump up the board because of the crash. More UCI Idiocy.
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Old 05-17-19, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Dreww10 View Post
Slightly off-topic, but noticed Ineos has been almost exclusively using rim-brake F12's all week, even on fast descent stages. Maybe I'm a fan of that team after all.
Thatís cause they donít have the budget to put disc brakes on the bikes.
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Old 05-17-19, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Tusk View Post
I heard there was a women's race too.
YEAH! Katie sometimes does hill intervals on Mount Diablo too. https://www.strava.com/activities/451468876#10849459329
I'm a fan.

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Old 05-17-19, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Tusk View Post
And three days. Pathetic. It's like they don't think the women can handle it, yet they brag on it. The infrastructure is there, use it.

They did the same thing last year with the women's race during le Tour. I don't even remember the name of the event, that is how successful they were.
Should the races be the same length? 130 miles or so?
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Old 05-17-19, 04:27 PM
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I always assumed that women's races were shorter, due to inherent "bathroom concerns", and female anatomy, etc. Might be a fun way to boost ratings though. We already sat through Bob Roll wiping his butt at the '87 Tour (see 38:20). He was the first American sportsman ever to be shown on TV doing this.


How could seeing some women racers answering the call of nature be any worse?
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Old 05-17-19, 05:01 PM
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That was a great race up Baldy. Why oh why did Higuita take that turn wide? He blew it right there. Congrats to the other kid Pogacar!
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Old 05-17-19, 06:26 PM
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At Santa Clarita after the Ventura ride and before the Ontario Mt Baldy to Pasadena ride. Was nice to see the after race bike cleanups and many of the team trucks and cars with stock of bike. Was also nice to talk with some of the mechanics and riders at the hotel. Also showing a few pictures of the training tables for prerace fueling up.



Glad that Curtis Wright sponsored the Santa Clarity


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Thanks for the pics ��
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Old 05-17-19, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Doge View Post
Should the races be the same length? 130 miles or so?
Not complaining about length per day, complaining about number of days and lack of real coverage.

As stated, there are 'disadvantages' that the women have when it comes to nature breaks which have to be accounted for. That doesn't change the ability to string more than three days together in the saddle. But more than that, why don't they get more air time?

And I want so badly for T J to win. All these years of pulling for him and it always ends when things get hard.
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Old 05-17-19, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Tusk View Post
Not complaining about length per day, complaining about number of days and lack of real coverage.

As stated, there are 'disadvantages' that the women have when it comes to nature breaks which have to be accounted for. That doesn't change the ability to string more than three days together in the saddle. But more than that, why don't they get more air time?

And I want so badly for T J to win. All these years of pulling for him and it always ends when things get hard.
What would cause that to change?

As for TJ. I don't know what his part in this was, but UCI making 3K extend to 10K feels like a bunch of home cooking. Again, I don't know the logic, but seems pretty clear if was an EF mistake. This is supposed to be a team sport.

I got into it with our team director because my son used different (Shimano) pedals than the team and a bike swap with a teammate could not be done. The brake thing is on EF.
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Originally Posted by 2cam16 View Post
That was a great race up Baldy. Why oh why did Higuita take that turn wide? He blew it right there. Congrats to the other kid Pogacar!
Smart disciplined racing by Pogacar, only 20 years old? A good lesson for Higuita, better now then at the TdF. Just read an article on Pogacar, this kid is incredible - first year in the world tour level.

Schachmann flying off the front before Baldy was awesome!

How intensely frustrating for Porte, dropping a chain and finishing +:09 back?

So I have a question, how will Saturday turn out? Will there be wild positioning for the time bonuses? How will EF, Decunick and UAE handle it?
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Originally Posted by Doge View Post
I got into it with our team director because my son used different (Shimano) pedals than the team and a bike swap with a teammate could not be done. The brake thing is on EF.
That seems foolish? Reversed brake levers are one thing but being completely unable to interchange bikes is another. Even vastly different sizes can be ok in a pinch?

Anyway TJs predicament is water under the bridge now. I wonder if officials are trying to coverup why there was a huge piece of plastic blowing across the road. I wonder if Moscon was hurt and couldn't do well today because of it.
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Originally Posted by Tusk View Post
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As stated, there are 'disadvantages' that the women have when it comes to nature breaks which have to be accounted for.
Ultra distance running...? Women can win "mano a mano" against men.
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Originally Posted by Doge View Post
What would cause that to change?

As for TJ. I don't know what his part in this was, but UCI making 3K extend to 10K feels like a bunch of home cooking. Again, I don't know the logic, but seems pretty clear if was an EF mistake. This is supposed to be a team sport.

I got into it with our team director because my son used different (Shimano) pedals than the team and a bike swap with a teammate could not be done. The brake thing is on EF.
forgive my ignorance but it seems like team component (etc) uniformity would prevent against either occurrence referenced...or is it just a case now where the riders have more say as to personal preferences (from previous
teams or endorsements or physical personalization) and the riders ultimate comfort is ultimately more productive towards overall total results vs that once or twice a year where a teammate has to use another's bike midrace?
or does it vary from team to team or if you're the lead dog?
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Tomorrow is going to be interesting with most of the top ten only seconds from each other.
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Originally Posted by ooga-booga View Post
forgive my ignorance but it seems like team component (etc) uniformity would prevent against either occurrence referenced...or is it just a case now where the riders have more say as to personal preferences (from previous
teams or endorsements or physical personalization) and the riders ultimate comfort is ultimately more productive towards overall total results vs that once or twice a year where a teammate has to use another's bike midrace?
or does it vary from team to team or if you're the lead dog?
I can only speak to the armature semi-pro level. It is money AND comfort. Motor riders often keep braking the same on both bikes. That is a brain stem thing. Pedals can be huge. Cars normally have spare bikes in top riders config. I could see in a pro team just hiring riders that fit your GC riders profile, but just a risk calculation. Disc vs rim brakes seem to be team based, as are tires, but wheels may be different. I expect it depend...
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Originally Posted by GrainBrain View Post
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Anyway TJs predicament is water under the bridge now. ...
TJ's is, but with these refs, Richie Port should have fallen over with his chain issue and ended up ahead.
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Whats up with the race fans running alongside the riders up Mt Baldy and getting so close that they almost interfered with a few riders progression uphill. On several occassions they did get in the way of riders trying to go around the rider in front of them.Looks like alot of the fans were looking more for TV time than actually urging the Riders On.
Hopefully they put a stop this this silly practice.

BTW, The Mt Baldy Stage was pretty awesome and the final fight to the Finish was pretty exciting. Decided by only a few seconds and a late race surge made for great racing.
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