1948 Bianchi Folgore
#1
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Evans, Georgia
Posts: 47
Bikes: Bunches
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 7 Times
in
3 Posts
1948 Bianchi Folgore
So I still don't have enough posts to enable me to attach pics but I received my latest machine yesterday. An amateur restore with wrong decals but overall it presents nicely. Although I'm really a balloon tire collector I've always wanted an early Bianchi in celeste with the Cambio Corsa drivetrain. I need to find a set of period brake levers, get some cable and a new set of single tubes and I should be ready to roll. If the forum has a vintage Bianchi expert I sure would appreciate some help with the proper brake set-up--manufacturer and model as well as a good pic of what the head tube and seat post decals should look like and a source for these. Nothing on EBAy is correct and I've reached out to Gus Salmone but haven't heard anything yet. Thanks, Shawn
#2
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Queens NYC
Posts: 3,175
Bikes: Colnago Super, Basso Gap, Pogliaghi, Fabio Barecci, Torelli Pista, Miyata 1400A
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 316 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 13 Times
in
13 Posts
I had no idea Bianchi used Celeste paint way back in 48!
I have no answers, but Ill give this a bump until an expert like Bianchigirl comes along.
I have no answers, but Ill give this a bump until an expert like Bianchigirl comes along.
#3
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: San Jose (Willow Glen) Ca
Posts: 9,832
Bikes: Kirk Custom JK Special, '84 Team Miyata,(dura ace old school) 80?? SR Semi-Pro 600 Arabesque
Mentioned: 106 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2336 Post(s)
Liked 2,809 Times
in
1,534 Posts
@Freqman1 keep replying to the post to get the posit count up... where did you find this, what is your plan etc break it up
@Bianchigirll heads up on what could be an interesting bike
@Bianchigirll heads up on what could be an interesting bike
__________________
Life is too short not to ride the best bike you have, as much as you can
(looking for Torpado Super light frame/fork or for Raleigh International frame fork 58cm)
Life is too short not to ride the best bike you have, as much as you can
(looking for Torpado Super light frame/fork or for Raleigh International frame fork 58cm)
Last edited by squirtdad; 12-06-18 at 01:07 PM.
#4
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Evans, Georgia
Posts: 47
Bikes: Bunches
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 7 Times
in
3 Posts
The bike was found on EBay but didn't go the auction didn't go the distance. It came with both a chain guard that I have not seen before as well as mudguards. Looks like it may have lived in Vienna, Austria for a while. I plan on riding it! V/r Shawn
#5
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Greenville SC
Posts: 4,116
Bikes: 1975 Motobecane Grand Jubile, 2020 Holdsworth Competition, 2022 Giant Trance 29 3
Mentioned: 42 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3349 Post(s)
Liked 3,599 Times
in
1,238 Posts
Sweet bike! And welcome to BF!
#6
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Evans, Georgia
Posts: 47
Bikes: Bunches
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 7 Times
in
3 Posts
Yes this is the bike. It also came with a color matched set of guards. I should be able to post pics shortly. V/r Shawn
#8
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: San Jose (Willow Glen) Ca
Posts: 9,832
Bikes: Kirk Custom JK Special, '84 Team Miyata,(dura ace old school) 80?? SR Semi-Pro 600 Arabesque
Mentioned: 106 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2336 Post(s)
Liked 2,809 Times
in
1,534 Posts
Wow does that release the rear hub to allow it to move forward for shifting down? Curios as how you shift up.....other than stopping very cool
__________________
Life is too short not to ride the best bike you have, as much as you can
(looking for Torpado Super light frame/fork or for Raleigh International frame fork 58cm)
Life is too short not to ride the best bike you have, as much as you can
(looking for Torpado Super light frame/fork or for Raleigh International frame fork 58cm)
#9
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Evans, Georgia
Posts: 47
Bikes: Bunches
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 7 Times
in
3 Posts
Yes the top lever releases the rear wheel. You have to freewheel, release the top lever and momentarily pedal backwards while moving the lower level to the next gear. You might be able to see the dropouts have 'teeth' that enable this to happen. Kinda sketchy but you can Google "Cambio Corsa" and see how it shifts. V/r Shawn
#10
multimodal commuter
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: NJ, NYC, LI
Posts: 19,808
Bikes: 1940s Fothergill, 1959 Allegro Special, 1963? Claud Butler Olympic Sprint, Lambert 'Clubman', 1974 Fuji "the Ace", 1976 Holdsworth 650b conversion rando bike, 1983 Trek 720 tourer, 1984 Counterpoint Opus II, 1993 Basso Gap, 2010 Downtube 8h, and...
Mentioned: 584 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1908 Post(s)
Liked 574 Times
in
339 Posts
Several points:
1. Very cool!
2. You are a brave man, I think, to want to try that gear setup. I'm into funky old tech, but I have to draw the line somewhere.
3. Vienne is a town in France, near Lyon. And yes, there is a place there called "Place St Severe." Check it out on Google Maps!
4. If you want the perfect saddle for that bike, this was on ebay a couple years ag. As purchased:
After restoration:
I still have it. I figure the buyer will want it stained brown or black... or I could paint it celeste.
1. Very cool!
2. You are a brave man, I think, to want to try that gear setup. I'm into funky old tech, but I have to draw the line somewhere.
3. Vienne is a town in France, near Lyon. And yes, there is a place there called "Place St Severe." Check it out on Google Maps!
4. If you want the perfect saddle for that bike, this was on ebay a couple years ag. As purchased:
After restoration:
I still have it. I figure the buyer will want it stained brown or black... or I could paint it celeste.
__________________
www.rhmsaddles.com.
www.rhmsaddles.com.
#14
Bianchi Goddess
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Shady Pines Retirement Fort Wayne, In
Posts: 27,844
Bikes: Too many to list here check my signature.
Mentioned: 192 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2925 Post(s)
Liked 2,921 Times
in
1,489 Posts
#15
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Capestang, France
Posts: 1,341
Bikes: Lots of French, some British and a couple of Italian
Mentioned: 35 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 247 Post(s)
Liked 130 Times
in
65 Posts
Vienne is a town in Eastern France, Rhone Valley... My mother's birth town. Fab bike, just shows that although there's progress, the basics are still the same.
The former home of your Bike.
Just spotted the post from @rhm . Always late to the party...
The former home of your Bike.
Just spotted the post from @rhm . Always late to the party...
Last edited by MiloFrance; 12-07-18 at 01:08 PM.
#16
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: North Bend, Washington State
Posts: 2,941
Bikes: 1937 Hobbs; 1977 Bruce Gordon; 1987 Bill Holland; 1988 Schwinn Paramount (Fixed gear); 1999 Fat City Yo Eddy (MTB); 2018 Woodrup (Touring) 2016 Ritchey breakaway
Mentioned: 291 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 554 Post(s)
Liked 3,793 Times
in
667 Posts
Very cool bike! That saddle by RHM would be a perfect saddle for it...
#17
Senior Member
Interesting to imagine this bike in this small town in France not long after the war. My general understanding is that most of Europe was just devastated at that time, and the Bianchi factory was bombed because it was a supplier to Italy. I wonder if bicycle production was continuous through that period. Must have been a well-to-do person to own it in that small town.
#19
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Port Angeles, WA
Posts: 7,922
Bikes: A green one, "Ragleigh," or something.
Mentioned: 194 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1627 Post(s)
Liked 630 Times
in
356 Posts
One story I've heard about the genesis of the famous celeste color is it originated post-war from mixing military surplus white, green (maybe yellow?) and blue - the only paints readily available in that place at that time. It may be apocryphal, but I like it.
So 1948 would be around that time.
Even with the 'bad' resto, that's a very cool bike.
So 1948 would be around that time.
Even with the 'bad' resto, that's a very cool bike.
__________________
● 1971 Grandis SL ● 1972 Lambert Grand Prix frankenbike ● 1972 Raleigh Super Course fixie ● 1973 Nishiki Semi-Pro ● 1979 Motobecane Grand Jubile ●1980 Apollo "Legnano" ● 1984 Peugeot Vagabond ● 1985 Shogun Prairie Breaker ● 1986 Merckx Super Corsa ● 1987 Schwinn Tempo ● 1988 Schwinn Voyageur ● 1989 Bottechia Team ADR replica ● 1990 Cannondale ST600 ● 1993 Technium RT600 ● 1996 Kona Lava Dome ●
● 1971 Grandis SL ● 1972 Lambert Grand Prix frankenbike ● 1972 Raleigh Super Course fixie ● 1973 Nishiki Semi-Pro ● 1979 Motobecane Grand Jubile ●1980 Apollo "Legnano" ● 1984 Peugeot Vagabond ● 1985 Shogun Prairie Breaker ● 1986 Merckx Super Corsa ● 1987 Schwinn Tempo ● 1988 Schwinn Voyageur ● 1989 Bottechia Team ADR replica ● 1990 Cannondale ST600 ● 1993 Technium RT600 ● 1996 Kona Lava Dome ●
#20
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Evans, Georgia
Posts: 47
Bikes: Bunches
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 7 Times
in
3 Posts
One story I've heard about the genesis of the famous celeste color is it originated post-war from mixing military surplus white, green (maybe yellow?) and blue - the only paints readily available in that place at that time. It may be apocryphal, but I like it.
So 1948 would be around that time.
Even with the 'bad' resto, that's a very cool bike.
So 1948 would be around that time.
Even with the 'bad' resto, that's a very cool bike.
Even Bianchi is unsure of the origin of the celeste color but it was introduced well before the war. Re: the resto; its not hideous but as someone who restores bikes I look at things a little more critically than others might. I don't intend to make this a show bike but something I can ride and have fun with. I just need to make a few minor corrections such as painting the head tube off-white as well as a band of off-white on the seat tube with the proper decals and a light color sand and polish. Then I call it done and ride! V/r Shawn
#21
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: AZ/WA
Posts: 2,403
Bikes: Yes
Mentioned: 36 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 460 Post(s)
Liked 54 Times
in
30 Posts
Cool bike and the saddle will be the icing, let's see more pics when it comes in.
@juvela may have info, lately I believe he has been hanging in your neck of the woods.
@juvela may have info, lately I believe he has been hanging in your neck of the woods.
#22
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Evans, Georgia
Posts: 47
Bikes: Bunches
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 7 Times
in
3 Posts
Cool bike and the saddle will be the icing, let's see more pics when it comes in.
@juvela may have info, lately I believe he has been hanging in your neck of the woods.
@juvela may have info, lately I believe he has been hanging in your neck of the woods.
I actually contacted @juvela before I made the deal on this bike--he was of great help in me making up my mind to get this bike. Once I get everything sorted I'll post an update. V/r Shawn
#23
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada - burrrrr!
Posts: 11,674
Bikes: 1958 Rabeneick 120D, 1968 Legnano Gran Premio, 196? Torpado Professional, 2000 Marinoni Piuma
Mentioned: 210 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1372 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1,748 Times
in
937 Posts
I need to find a set of period brake levers,
__________________
"98% of the bikes I buy are projects".
"98% of the bikes I buy are projects".