Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

Best $500 Upgrade to BMC

Notices
Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

Best $500 Upgrade to BMC

Old 11-29-19, 12:56 PM
  #1  
bpcyclist
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Portland
Posts: 1,115
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 451 Post(s)
Liked 364 Times in 227 Posts
Best $500 Upgrade to BMC

Hey, gang. I have decided that Santa is going to bring me a little upgrade to my SLR02. The bike is a 2018 and has 105 R5800 all around. I love the way it rides. I was initially going to upgrade the Aksiums on it, but then, the more I read, the less convinced I was that a 4-500-gram drop in weight would really mean a lot to me. I do climb and I weigh 180. I do no racing and my only competition is with me. The tires are Gator Hardshells and they will be on until the weather changes (May). This time of year, the premium is on flat-prevention. But going tubeless is a consideration.

I greatly respect the cyclists on this forum and anything suggested I am potentially up for. Oh--I do think my poc helmet and lights are all good for now. Last, I use a cheap LG phone along with Ulysses and RWGPS, both of which I like a lot.

Any and all suggestions are welcome!
bpcyclist is offline  
Old 11-29-19, 01:11 PM
  #2  
WhyFi
Senior Member
 
WhyFi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: TC, MN
Posts: 39,505

Bikes: R3 Disc, Haanjo

Mentioned: 353 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20791 Post(s)
Liked 9,436 Times in 4,663 Posts
If you're in to competing with yourself and you'll actually make use of it, I'd look in to a power meter. You should be able to pick up a 105/Ultegra single-sided meter (Stages, Pioneer, 4iiii, etc) on sale for under $500 right about now - I've seen some under $300 recently. The caveat is that I don't know if/how well these would work with your phone/RWGPS set-up. Many PMs are Bluetooth, but I don't know if RWGPS will pair with them or not. I'd recommend a dedicated computer, anyway, but maybe you could get by with that set-up for a while.

400-500g is a significant drop in wheel weight, though - it probably isn't going to change your ride times significantly, but lighter wheels certainly feel more lively and fun.
WhyFi is offline  
Likes For WhyFi:
Old 11-29-19, 01:34 PM
  #3  
noodle soup
Senior Member
 
noodle soup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 8,922
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4717 Post(s)
Liked 1,882 Times in 998 Posts
Originally Posted by bpcyclist
Any and all suggestions are welcome!
Is your bike disc or rim brake?

Some lighter/wider and tubeless wheels will improve ride quality noticeably, and be less fatiguing on longer rides. Rim brakes will limit tire width slightly, but 28-30mm tubeless tires work well on roads that are less than perfect.
noodle soup is offline  
Likes For noodle soup:
Old 11-29-19, 01:56 PM
  #4  
jsigone
got the climbing bug
 
jsigone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: San Diego
Posts: 10,204

Bikes: one for everything

Mentioned: 82 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 632 Post(s)
Liked 908 Times in 273 Posts
Wheelset around 1500-1550 grams
wahoo bike computer also uses RWGPS
stages power meter

pick one and get the next with upgrade
__________________
Rule #10 // It never gets easier, you just go faster.
jsigone is offline  
Likes For jsigone:
Old 11-29-19, 03:17 PM
  #5  
burnthesheep
Newbie racer
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 3,406

Bikes: Propel, red is faster

Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1575 Post(s)
Liked 1,569 Times in 974 Posts
Good lord, get rid of the hardshells and go go5000 and latex and gain 25w now! That’s almost the slowest tire there is.

That will be about $100.

Then, get a meter with the other $400.

Done.
burnthesheep is offline  
Likes For burnthesheep:
Old 11-29-19, 04:25 PM
  #6  
bpcyclist
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Portland
Posts: 1,115
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 451 Post(s)
Liked 364 Times in 227 Posts
Originally Posted by noodle soup
Is your bike disc or rim brake?

Some lighter/wider and tubeless wheels will improve ride quality noticeably, and be less fatiguing on longer rides. Rim brakes will limit tire width slightly, but 28-30mm tubeless tires work well on roads that are less than perfect.
Yeah, it's rim.
bpcyclist is offline  
Old 11-29-19, 04:43 PM
  #7  
02Giant 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 2,977
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1638 Post(s)
Liked 741 Times in 495 Posts
Lighter weight wheels now, new rubber after winter.
__________________
nine mile skid on a ten mile ride
02Giant is offline  
Likes For 02Giant:
Old 11-29-19, 05:06 PM
  #8  
noodle soup
Senior Member
 
noodle soup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 8,922
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4717 Post(s)
Liked 1,882 Times in 998 Posts
Originally Posted by bpcyclist
Yeah, it's rim.
you should still be able to use 28mm tires.
noodle soup is offline  
Likes For noodle soup:
Old 11-30-19, 05:06 PM
  #9  
bruce19
Senior Member
 
bruce19's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Lebanon (Liberty Hill), CT
Posts: 8,473

Bikes: CAAD 12, MASI Gran Criterium S, Colnago World Cup CX & Guru steel

Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1743 Post(s)
Liked 1,279 Times in 739 Posts
Mavic Ksyrium Elite UST's
bruce19 is offline  
Likes For bruce19:
Old 11-30-19, 08:22 PM
  #10  
MoreLowGears
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Posts: 23
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 20 Times in 5 Posts
I agree with OP on the wheels: a 400-500g drop is like a .5% decrease in the total weight of you and the bike. Some will point out the decrease in "rotating weight" but the effects of that are insignificant even for larger drops in weight. Aero wheels make a difference, but that's out of your price range here.

Consider upgrading your existing wheels to tubeless and getting a faster training tire. It's less than $50 for the tape and tools, plus the cost of tires. The specific tire would depend on how bad your puncture risks are. The difference in speed would be really noticeable, much more so than with new wheels.

Flex/suspension seatposts are a good upgrade for most. Ride over potholes and railroad tracks with impunity! That's $150-300 for a nice one. Then there's the Shockstop suspension stem for $150 if you want to go all out.

As others mentioned, a power meter is useful, and used single sided ones aren't too expensive.

Or upgrade your consumables: treat yourself to some nice bar tape and compressionless brake housing
MoreLowGears is offline  
Likes For MoreLowGears:
Old 11-30-19, 09:36 PM
  #11  
znomit
Zoom zoom zoom zoom bonk
 
znomit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 4,624

Bikes: Giant Defy, Trek 1.7c, BMC GF02, Fuji Tahoe, Scott Sub 35, Kona Rove, Trek Verve+2

Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 551 Post(s)
Liked 722 Times in 366 Posts
Consumables don't count as part of any upgrade price

500$? Thats a weekend or two away on a cycling vacation upgrading the motor.
znomit is offline  
Likes For znomit:
Old 12-01-19, 01:55 AM
  #12  
dim
Senior Member
 
dim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Cambridge UK
Posts: 1,667

Bikes: Trek Emonda SL6 .... Miyata One Thousand

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 63 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 29 Times in 22 Posts
for $500 budget....

get a pair of Continental GP5000 clinchers (as wide as you can) and use lightweight tubes

a Garmin Varia Radar unit (assuming you have a Garmin satnav that you can connect to)

keep the change and save up for a new set of wheels (tubeless ready rims), and a powermeter

the GP5000 will be considerably faster than gatorskins, and the Radar unit takes away a lot of stress when riding (it's a 'must have' )

the biggest upgrade on a bike that makes a noticeable improvement are wheels and tyres

Last edited by dim; 12-01-19 at 02:00 AM.
dim is offline  
Likes For dim:
Old 12-01-19, 02:12 AM
  #13  
guadzilla
Pointy Helmet Tribe
 
guadzilla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Offthebackistan
Posts: 4,338

Bikes: R5, Allez Sprint, Shiv

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 519 Post(s)
Liked 627 Times in 295 Posts
Powermeter, man.

Competitive Cyclist has 50% off Quarq. I have 4 of them and they're bullet proof (and i would recommend them over Stages, which i tried about a year or two after they launched, and Garmin Vectors, which my wife uses). And not just for racers.
guadzilla is offline  
Likes For guadzilla:
Old 12-01-19, 12:55 PM
  #14  
Wileyrat
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Tucson Az
Posts: 1,667

Bikes: 2015 Ridley Fenix, 1983 Team Fuji, 2019 Marin Nail Trail 6

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 335 Post(s)
Liked 220 Times in 133 Posts
Wheels now, tires later.
Wileyrat is offline  
Likes For Wileyrat:
Old 12-01-19, 02:04 PM
  #15  
dscoduc
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 14
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Just upgraded my wheels to a lighter setup and I can say the difference was very noticeable.
dscoduc is offline  
Likes For dscoduc:
Old 12-01-19, 03:13 PM
  #16  
zacster
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Brooklyn NY
Posts: 7,714

Bikes: Kuota Kredo/Chorus, Trek 7000 commuter, Trek 8000 MTB and a few others

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 22 Post(s)
Liked 459 Times in 361 Posts
I'd say wheels as well, but tires too. And having ridden a Spec Roubaix with the Future Shock recently for an entire day, I'd go with the Redshift ShockStop stem myself. Not the same system but close to the same effect.
zacster is offline  
Likes For zacster:
Old 12-01-19, 07:01 PM
  #17  
bpcyclist
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Portland
Posts: 1,115
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 451 Post(s)
Liked 364 Times in 227 Posts
Originally Posted by dscoduc
Just upgraded my wheels to a lighter setup and I can say the difference was very noticeable.
Would you mind sharing what the upgrade was? It's fine if you'd rather not.
bpcyclist is offline  
Old 12-01-19, 07:02 PM
  #18  
bpcyclist
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Portland
Posts: 1,115
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 451 Post(s)
Liked 364 Times in 227 Posts
Originally Posted by dim
for $500 budget....

get a pair of Continental GP5000 clinchers (as wide as you can) and use lightweight tubes

a Garmin Varia Radar unit (assuming you have a Garmin satnav that you can connect to)

keep the change and save up for a new set of wheels (tubeless ready rims), and a powermeter

the GP5000 will be considerably faster than gatorskins, and the Radar unit takes away a lot of stress when riding (it's a 'must have' )

the biggest upgrade on a bike that makes a noticeable improvement are wheels and tyres
How does the Varia work in a busy city environment with tons of traffic?
bpcyclist is offline  
Old 12-01-19, 07:21 PM
  #19  
WhyFi
Senior Member
 
WhyFi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: TC, MN
Posts: 39,505

Bikes: R3 Disc, Haanjo

Mentioned: 353 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20791 Post(s)
Liked 9,436 Times in 4,663 Posts
Originally Posted by bpcyclist
How does the Varia work in a busy city environment with tons of traffic?
It beeps like mad.

Some people don't really like running a Varia in the city, but I don't mind it. Yeah, the beeping can be annoying, but there are still enough gaps in the traffic that it's nice to know how many cars you have behind you and when they've cleared.
WhyFi is offline  
Likes For WhyFi:
Old 12-01-19, 07:48 PM
  #20  
goenrdoug
Senior Member
 
goenrdoug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Southern California
Posts: 1,416

Bikes: 2019 Supersix Evo, 2002 Trek 2000

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 273 Post(s)
Liked 45 Times in 32 Posts
it's nice to know how many cars you have behind you and when they've cleared.


This is much quieter:

goenrdoug is offline  
Likes For goenrdoug:
Old 12-01-19, 08:02 PM
  #21  
WhyFi
Senior Member
 
WhyFi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: TC, MN
Posts: 39,505

Bikes: R3 Disc, Haanjo

Mentioned: 353 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20791 Post(s)
Liked 9,436 Times in 4,663 Posts
Originally Posted by goenrdoug
This is much quieter:
Hard pass.
WhyFi is offline  
Likes For WhyFi:
Old 12-01-19, 08:17 PM
  #22  
wirides
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 49
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Liked 23 Times in 12 Posts
I'd like to know what wheels can be had fir $500 that would make a difference?
wirides is offline  
Likes For wirides:
Old 12-01-19, 08:44 PM
  #23  
02Giant 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 2,977
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1638 Post(s)
Liked 741 Times in 495 Posts
https://bicyclewheelwarehouse.com/Ro...Wheel-Set.html

https://www.wiggle.co.uk/prime-rr-38...cher-wheelset/
__________________
nine mile skid on a ten mile ride
02Giant is offline  
Likes For 02Giant:
Old 12-01-19, 08:56 PM
  #24  
dscoduc
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 14
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by bpcyclist
Would you mind sharing what the upgrade was? It's fine if you'd rather not.
While not the lightest, these wheels are a great upgrade to what I had.

https://shop.fullspeedahead.com/en/ns-wheelset-4393
dscoduc is offline  
Likes For dscoduc:
Old 12-01-19, 09:25 PM
  #25  
jadocs
Senior Member
 
jadocs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: USA
Posts: 2,190

Bikes: Ti, Mn Cr Ni Mo Nb, Al, C

Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 942 Post(s)
Liked 526 Times in 349 Posts
Absolutely a Power Meter.
jadocs is offline  
Likes For jadocs:

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.