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Old 07-15-23, 06:13 AM
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Frame saver alternatives

I've used JP Weigle frame saver (now problem solvers frame saver) for a while but it is out of stock in the various places I've checked and do business with.

Are there any alternatives that I should consider?
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Don't ride that bike in the rain.
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Fluid Film is the one I'm going for.
I've seen a couple of heavy duty tests and it beat Frame Saver in both.
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ProGold Steel Frame Protector seems to work as well on my daughters Portland, OR bikes and is available on line with lots of places. I have heard the Muc-Off
brand is also good.
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Boeshield spray and the traditional method of boiled linseed oil are alternatives. For the most part though I ride an aluminum or plastic bike in wet weather and if one of the steel bikes gets wet and grimy I just clean and dry it right after.
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Here’s a thread on MTBR where the poster conducts a controlled test of 6 different anti corrosion products suitable for steel frames.

https://www.mtbr.com/threads/anti-co...otout.1073581/
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Eastwood

Eastwood sells a number of products for rust encapsulation and rust prevention.

they sell a nozzle that can be fed into the frame tubing. The nozzle tip sprays 360 degrees ensuring the inside of the tubing is coated. Much better than frame saver.

https://www.eastwood.com/internal-fr...ce=google&wv=4
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Boiled linseed oil.
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I've been using AMS Oil Heavy Duty Metal Protection https://syntheticoilpros.com/shop/cl...tal-protector/ for about 15 years. Not expensive, not hard to use and seems to work quite well. I've had no surprises. Yes, some of the AMS sales reps are quite fervent But I've always come away with just can in hand and all my limbs and finances intact. It's been a few years (the cans do several bikes) but I never paid much more than $8 per.

It seems tor me that buying a product cheap enough that you feel free to use maybe too much and make a mess is a great tradeoff vs an expensive one you want to use wisely when you enemy is water, famous for finding its way to the farthest corners. That H2O stuff is incredibly patient and persistent.
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney
I've been using AMS Oil Heavy Duty Metal Protection https://syntheticoilpros.com/shop/cl...tal-protector/ for about 15 years. Not expensive, not hard to use and seems to work quite well. I've had no surprises. Yes, some of the AMS sales reps are quite fervent But I've always come away with just can in hand and all my limbs and finances intact. It's been a few years (the cans do several bikes) but I never paid much more than $8 per.

It seems tor me that buying a product cheap enough that you feel free to use maybe too much and make a mess is a great tradeoff vs an expensive one you want to use wisely when you enemy is water, famous for finding its way to the farthest corners. That H2O stuff is incredibly patient and persistent.
Runs around $16 plus shipping from their website but this does look good.
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Originally Posted by fliplap
Here’s a thread on MTBR where the poster conducts a controlled test of 6 different anti corrosion products suitable for steel frames.

https://www.mtbr.com/threads/anti-co...otout.1073581/
Looks like Fluid Film was a winner based on that test. Also it's lanolin based which seems about right for the C&V crowd.
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Originally Posted by bikemig
Looks like Fluid Film was a winner based on that test. Also it's lanolin based which seems about right for the C&V crowd.
I came to the same conclusion
Apparently it smells nice too (if you like sheep).

A thing I have discovered is that a lot of advertised "Fluid Film extension hoses" don't work with the Fluid Film can.
The can I've got is a "female" top, ie, the cap inserts into the top, so specifically not supported by this: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/385241435...oAAOSw~OZjgNvf
On the other hand Amazon sells thin plastic tube that would fit on the nozzle.
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On the inside of the tubes just about anything will work great, up to and including waste oil from your last oil change. You know how you can still see that spot of oil in the pavement from that oil change last year? And that is oil that was exposed to the elements and traffic. Just oil on the inner tube will occupy all the nook, crannies, and pores in the metal. Being hydrophobic would stop humidity from getting in contact with the metal. Being protected inside of the tubes it will never degrade or move away.

Personally I use boiled linseed oil mostly because of old school snobbery.
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I use Boeshield. Spray it on everything. Frames, derailleurs, pasta, broccoli - multipurpose stuff.
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Originally Posted by tyrion
I use Boeshield. Spray it on everything. Frames, derailleurs, pasta, broccoli - multipurpose stuff.
Looking forward to reading your recipe with pasta and broccoli and Boeshield. . . .
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Originally Posted by bikemig
Looking forward to reading your recipe with pasta and broccoli and Boeshield. . . .
Boeshield, minced garlic, lemon zest, black pepper...
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