Notices
Track Cycling: Velodrome Racing and Training Area Looking to enter into the realm of track racing? Want to share your experiences and tactics for riding on a velodrome? The Track Cycling forums is for you! Come in and discuss training/racing, equipment, and current track cycling events.

Interesting finds around the web

Old 02-26-20, 05:10 AM
  #2726  
Morelock
Senior Member
 
Morelock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 554
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 247 Post(s)
Liked 23 Times in 19 Posts
While those look a lot like Speedbars, the cat is kind of out of the bag. Taking a thermoplastic mold of somebody's arm and then laying down a couple of layers of carbon on top of it is not terribly complex in the composite world... and since speedbar sells them for roughly $4k... plenty of room for others to get in the game I'd bet those are made in house.
Morelock is offline  
Likes For Morelock:
Old 02-26-20, 08:24 AM
  #2727  
queerpunk
aka mattio
 
queerpunk's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 6,574

Bikes: yes

Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 339 Post(s)
Liked 50 Times in 30 Posts
Originally Posted by queerpunk View Post
yeah, that's a training bike while he's flying Cofidis colors. The 42cm handlebars give it away. In Tokyo I assume he'll be on a Pinarello.
I could be wrong though... he's on a different new "De Rosa" for Berlin Worlds.

queerpunk is offline  
Old 02-27-20, 12:10 AM
  #2728  
SynergyPro
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 36
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 16 Post(s)
Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts
Registration was too late and did not get into the track center....

but got some info on the Argon 18 for Australia:
the narrow fork was never meant to be ridden by the sprinters, but they tested it and liked it. So seems the narrow hub/fork doesnít effect handling too bad.
There is actually a tab in front of the fork tips to carry the timing Chip, it holds onto the tab with heat shrink wrap. Itís orientated forward to be across the line faster (of course itís less aero).
Not everyone is on the new bike yet and itíll be exclusive to Australia for now. Available on the market late summer.

santini developed a new skinsuit which they will be presenting at Tokyo.

Also saw:

new bike from wiawis with bayonet fork

new stuff from Fes (wide fork with narrow hub, a bit like GB who were on cervelo and uksi)
SynergyPro is offline  
Likes For SynergyPro:
Old 02-29-20, 01:51 AM
  #2729  
SynergyPro
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 36
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 16 Post(s)
Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts

Thatís the wide fes fork I mentioned.
probably made specifically to work with spoke wheels.
there is some info on the web from a hed engineer how a hed3 would work best with a ultra wide fork as the blades create soundwaves.
SynergyPro is offline  
Old 03-04-20, 01:57 AM
  #2730  
Baby Puke
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Kanazawa
Posts: 1,645

Bikes: Marin Stelvio, Pogliaghi SL, Panasonic NJS, Dolan DF4, Intense Pro24 BMX

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 342 Post(s)
Liked 55 Times in 36 Posts
Photo essay on the Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/ga...ps-in-pictures
Baby Puke is offline  
Likes For Baby Puke:
Old 03-04-20, 12:56 PM
  #2731  
700wheel
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: USA
Posts: 619
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 138 Post(s)
Liked 9 Times in 6 Posts
Here is an update on the changes to UCI track cycling
https://www.uci.org/track/news/2020/...g-world-league

It is interesting to see GCN's involvement because I've noticed they increased mention of track cycling in recent months.

Last edited by 700wheel; 03-04-20 at 01:11 PM.
700wheel is offline  
Old 03-05-20, 02:49 AM
  #2732  
ruudlaff
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 195
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 84 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 7 Times in 7 Posts
Originally Posted by 700wheel View Post
Here is an update on the changes to UCI track cycling
https://www.uci.org/track/news/2020/...g-world-league

It is interesting to see GCN's involvement because I've noticed they increased mention of track cycling in recent months.
I had been wondering why they had increased their track content recently.
ruudlaff is offline  
Old 03-05-20, 03:04 PM
  #2733  
SynergyPro
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 36
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 16 Post(s)
Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts
Nice... now you can show up with only four riders to a event.

I canít get my head around how they are not doing a full omnium. This at least would be in line with the olympics and would help to develop the discipline.
also no madison?! Whatís more spectacular for tv viewers?

lets see what events the other new format will hold. But I guess we wonít see as much progress in the next Olympic cyclus as we saw in this one.
SynergyPro is offline  
Old 03-05-20, 11:26 PM
  #2734  
pierrej
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 148
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 73 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts
Originally Posted by carleton View Post
At that price, why make one frame for sprint and pursuit? The reference LOOKs come in sprint and pursuit variants. Both at around $10K each.

At this level of the sport, why are teams settling for this one-frame-for-all approach?

This is like everyone on the Olympic Track & Field (Athletics) team wearing the same shoes. (Iím being hyperbolic, but you get my point).
Molds cost more, the sprint frame is very different on the inside and much stiffer than the pursuit bike.

That look pursuit bike at the time was a slightly modified road TT bike.
pierrej is offline  
Old 03-06-20, 11:55 PM
  #2735  
carleton
Elitist
Thread Starter
 
carleton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 15,856
Mentioned: 88 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1337 Post(s)
Liked 54 Times in 44 Posts
Originally Posted by pierrej View Post
Molds cost more, the sprint frame is very different on the inside and much stiffer than the pursuit bike.
I could see the cost of a second mold being an excuse for entry level bikes, but not these elite bikes. These companies poop out a stable of new road and TT frames literally every year. Not just one, multiple frames to meet various price points in their product offerings. They use the same track molds for 4 or more years.

Originally Posted by pierrej View Post
That look pursuit bike at the time was a slightly modified road TT bike.

As were the first LOOK 496 (the road TT frame was also called 496) and Felt TK1 (modeled after the Felt DA).


On a related note, when Hoy started his bike company, I really wished that he would have created a top tier sprint frame (and line of components) that a person on his level would want to use. I do appreciate him making quality, inexpensive bikes for beginner and intermediate racers, but I just really thought he was gonna make a Dolan/UKSI/FES/LOOK challenger.

Oh well.

Speaking of FES, that's what it looks like when your engineers make a dedicated sprint bike.

Last edited by carleton; 03-06-20 at 11:59 PM.
carleton is offline  
Old 03-09-20, 01:01 AM
  #2736  
pierrej
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 148
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 73 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts
4 or more years of one track bike may sell less than one year of an entry level roady though, even cervelo stopped producing track bikes because they just don't sell. The 'elite' track frame market is minuscule and companies just won't bother unless it makes financial sense.
pierrej is offline  
Likes For pierrej:
Old 03-09-20, 06:50 AM
  #2737  
topflightpro
Senior Member
 
topflightpro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 6,986
Mentioned: 54 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1575 Post(s)
Liked 309 Times in 213 Posts
Originally Posted by pierrej View Post
4 or more years of one track bike may sell less than one year of an entry level roady though, even cervelo stopped producing track bikes because they just don't sell. The 'elite' track frame market is minuscule and companies just won't bother unless it makes financial sense.
3T discontinued the Scatto bars because they didn't make sense financially, even if they are one of the most popular track bars around.
topflightpro is offline  
Old 03-09-20, 07:23 AM
  #2738  
Morelock
Senior Member
 
Morelock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 554
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 247 Post(s)
Liked 23 Times in 19 Posts
Originally Posted by topflightpro View Post
3T discontinued the Scatto bars because they didn't make sense financially, even if they are one of the most popular track bars around.
Yeah, I think one of the issues particular to the Scatto was - if you wanted one, you probably have one by now.

Still... you would think that at what they msrp at, you'd just keep the mold ready and make a couple when you get an order.
Morelock is offline  
Old 03-09-20, 04:33 PM
  #2739  
brawlo
Senior Member
 
brawlo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,109
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 254 Post(s)
Liked 26 Times in 22 Posts
Originally Posted by topflightpro View Post
3T discontinued the Scatto bars because they didn't make sense financially, even if they are one of the most popular track bars around.
Originally Posted by Morelock View Post
Yeah, I think one of the issues particular to the Scatto was - if you wanted one, you probably have one by now.

Still... you would think that at what they msrp at, you'd just keep the mold ready and make a couple when you get an order.
When they came out they were a bit of a revolution and everyone jumped on them. Perhaps their problem is that they're so robust that they last forever and there's so many out there on the market that there's no need to buy new any more. That, and there's so many other options out there now to compete with that I could see that it easily wouldn't make sense to continue production.
brawlo is offline  
Old 03-09-20, 05:58 PM
  #2740  
KrispyK
Member
 
KrispyK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 28

Bikes: Bianchi superpista and boardwalk

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 21 Post(s)
Liked 6 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by topflightpro View Post
3T discontinued the Scatto bars because they didn't make sense financially, even if they are one of the most popular track bars around.
I was talking to our shop 3T rep and he hinted that the whole 3T bar lineup is being revamped and the first bar they stopped making is the scatto because of its lower sales. The rep hinted at a Q2 release date.
KrispyK is offline  
Old 03-10-20, 11:48 PM
  #2741  
Clythio
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 121
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 64 Post(s)
Liked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Interesting track news portal - lots of links

https://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Cycling/Track+Cycling
Clythio is offline  
Old 03-13-20, 12:31 AM
  #2742  
SynergyPro
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 36
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 16 Post(s)
Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts
The Aerocoach ĄVorzugď Track pursuit bar didnít get a mention yet... but the only other track specific pursuit bar I know of is the use Tula track.
even the handlebars on most super bikes are just road versions.


Ordered one just to support that they are investing in track (with probably low reward financially).
SynergyPro is offline  
Old 04-21-20, 03:28 AM
  #2743  
zizou
Senior Member
 
zizou's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 135
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 21 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I missed this at the time but at the UCI mountain bike eliminator world champs last year BŁchli and Hoogland took part with the latter finishing 8th! Impressive technical skills, although i suppose that is to be expected from someone that started out in BMX

zizou is offline  
Likes For zizou:
Old 04-28-20, 10:51 AM
  #2744  
gycho77
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Delaware, USA
Posts: 606

Bikes: Serotta steel track bike, Specialized MTB

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 99 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
You can watch Korea Pro Keirin races here
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYV...Q5VwfCeuVDABbg
gycho77 is offline  
Old 05-29-20, 04:29 AM
  #2745  
Morelock
Senior Member
 
Morelock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 554
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 247 Post(s)
Liked 23 Times in 19 Posts
Fun video I saw on FB. Nothing like a 1' Max effort to remind you how slow time really moves.

I've been stuck trying to break 700 for a while now... that last 8-12 seconds I always fall to pieces.
Morelock is offline  
Likes For Morelock:
Old 09-12-20, 06:24 AM
  #2746  
Morelock
Senior Member
 
Morelock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 554
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 247 Post(s)
Liked 23 Times in 19 Posts
New Vittoria pista tyres for the ultra high end.
Morelock is offline  
Old 09-12-20, 11:26 PM
  #2747  
SynergyPro
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 36
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 16 Post(s)
Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts
Originally Posted by Morelock View Post
New Vittoria pista tyres for the ultra high end.
only in 23mm, the pista is still available in 19mm.
think the Australians are still on 19?
SynergyPro is offline  
Old 09-13-20, 06:02 AM
  #2748  
Baby Puke
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Kanazawa
Posts: 1,645

Bikes: Marin Stelvio, Pogliaghi SL, Panasonic NJS, Dolan DF4, Intense Pro24 BMX

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 342 Post(s)
Liked 55 Times in 36 Posts
Originally Posted by SynergyPro View Post
only in 23mm, the pista is still available in 19mm.
think the Australians are still on 19?
Praying 19mm stays in production...
Baby Puke is offline  
Old 09-13-20, 06:26 AM
  #2749  
topflightpro
Senior Member
 
topflightpro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 6,986
Mentioned: 54 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1575 Post(s)
Liked 309 Times in 213 Posts
Originally Posted by Baby Puke View Post
Praying 19mm stays in production...
Might want to go ahead and stock up now.
topflightpro is offline  
Old 09-13-20, 06:50 AM
  #2750  
Baby Puke
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Kanazawa
Posts: 1,645

Bikes: Marin Stelvio, Pogliaghi SL, Panasonic NJS, Dolan DF4, Intense Pro24 BMX

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 342 Post(s)
Liked 55 Times in 36 Posts
Originally Posted by topflightpro View Post
Might want to go ahead and stock up now.
23mm would look like a monster truck tire on my early 2000's (??) era IO. Please track cycling gods, have pity!
Baby Puke is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.