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Old 03-08-19, 09:56 PM
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Sights and sounds from my trip to HK.

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Sights and sounds from my trip to HK.

https://youtu.be/eJK_Yoyt7oA
Nice video!
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Sights and sounds from my trip to HK.

https://youtu.be/eJK_Yoyt7oA
Very cool! Thanks for sharing.
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Kelly Catlin died a few nights ago: https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/kell...ies-at-age-23/
Team USA, Olympic medalist, World Champion, etc.
An incredibly gifted young woman on and off the bike. Tragic.

The National Suicide Prevention Hotline is 1-800-273-8255. Someone will always answer - you're not alone.
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sad news, 23 is no age at all
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Upcoming hour record event --- Victor Campenarts --- Track Bike photos:
Victor Campenaerts' Ridley Arena TT Hour Record - Gallery | Cyclingnews.com
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some cool tech, the integrated bars are nice although I'm sure it's considered against the "spirit" of the rules to have rests for your forearms.

I'd say he has a really good shot. That said, Mexico hasn't been the panacea needed for the last few attempts to hit 54.5.
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of Campenaerts hour record attempt (9a.m. PT 4/16/19)
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20 minutes in and he's averaged 55.07km, and is riding at 55.4 km//h.

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55.089km Very impressive. Some of his final laps in the 16.1 range!
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Peak Age and Performance Progression in World-Class Weightlifting and Powerlifting Athletes

Results:

Peak age (mean SD) was 35 7 y for powerlifters and 26 3 y for weightlifters, a large most likely substantial difference of 9, 1 y (mean, 90% confidence limits). Men showed possibly higher peak age than women in weightlifting (0.8, 0.7 y; small), and a possibly lower peak age in powerlifting (1.3, 1.8 y; trivial). Peak age of athletes who ever won a medal was very likely less than that of non-medalists in weightlifting (1.3, 0.6 y; small), while the difference in powerlifters was trivial but unclear. Five-year improvements prior to peak age were 12 10% for powerlifters and 9 7% for weightlifters, a small possibly substantial difference (2.9, 2.1%). Women exhibited possibly greater improvements than men in powerlifting (2.7, 3.8%; small) and very likely greater in weightlifting (3.5, 1.6%; small). Medalists possibly improved less than non-medalists among powerlifters (-1.7, 2.3%; small), while the difference was likely trivial for weightlifters (2.3, 1.8%).
Peak strength and power performance can come in the mid-30s.

This may explain Theo Bos being one of the fastest sprinters in the world at age 35. And there are countless other stories.

Athletic progression doesn't end after 25
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55.089km Very impressive. Some of his final laps in the 16.1 range!
This is power at the track surface. Add a few watts (maybe 5 or so) if you want power at the crank spider.

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thanks for the chart! I had him below .2, but not as far below as most people seem to have him.
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I didn't want to make a guess about his exact CdA. At that air density, he would've needed a watts/CdA ratio of somewhere between 1810 and 1835 (for watts at the track surface).
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My friend and I recently started a podcast focused on cycling training and racing, and we sat down and chatted with Ashton Lambie.

Talking To Ashton Lambie - Empirical Cycling

Give it a listen, and maybe check out some of the other episodes and let me know what you think!

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New LOOK cockpit (pursuit) - has some nice/unique features and "reasonably" priced (for a top end cockpit)



Discussion on Slowtwitch with Q&A with one of the LOOK guys.
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Some more eye candy

https://www.velobike.co.nz/blog/2019...o-track-review
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Not sure if this has been posted before. Apparently, it's been on YouTube since 2015.

CHEETAH: The Nelson Vails Story (Full Version)


1 hr 6 minutes.

For those not familiar with Vails: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Vails
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Didn't see that coming.
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I was surprised he made 4:30 on the first run. Will be interesting to see how far he can go.
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That's amazing.

For those that aren't familiar, it was mentioned in the video that 4:30 would have won silver at US Elite Nationals after Ashton Lambie's 4:27.497. That's 2.503" faster. Gaimon lost that much and more with the wobbly line he had.

Gaimon hasn't ridden a track bike in 11 years...and set a pace for 4:30 and hit it on the nose (what if he paced for faster?). It's safe to say that Gaimon is already on the Long Team and a strong candidate to make the 5-man roster.

Now they have to go score points to qualify for the Olympics. They may be a day late and a dollar short.

I've always said that the best trackies are lost to the road.

I hope he's current on his WADA Biological Passport. I'm not exactly sure how it works, but doesn't he have to declare his eligibility like a year (or more) before any event that he plans to race so he can be on the testing schedule for that year and going forward?

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Well technically he rode a track bike a couple months ago...

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I hope he's current on his WADA Biological Passport. I'm not exactly sure how it works, but doesn't he have to declare his eligibility like a year (or more) before any event that he plans to race so he can be on the testing schedule for that year and going forward?
He's mentioned a few times on Twitter that he still gets tested, so I assume he is.
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pretty impressive, but sort of makes sense too.

He has had some experience with track in the past. He's mentioned a few times that since "retirement" he's actually gotten quite a bit stronger on shorter / punchier climbs. (Which again, makes sense when you don't need to kill yourself daily) quite a few years of big base to pull from as well.

It's not "that hard" to take a guy with big power and make him ~ .2 cda. Once you nail the w/cda, it's just getting down the technical / going full nerd on the aero gains, and then putting in the specific training. If he's doing 4:30 on a "lark" he's not too far off.
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pretty impressive, but sort of makes sense too.

He has had some experience with track in the past. He's mentioned a few times that since "retirement" he's actually gotten quite a bit stronger on shorter / punchier climbs. (Which again, makes sense when you don't need to kill yourself daily) quite a few years of big base to pull from as well.

It's not "that hard" to take a guy with big power and make him ~ .2 cda. Once you nail the w/cda, it's just getting down the technical / going full nerd on the aero gains, and then putting in the specific training. If he's doing 4:30 on a "lark" he's not too far off.
Yeah, his story isn't unique among pro (and recently retired pro) roadies.

This is why I think it's an untapped resource.

I've told this story a few times before, but, the guy who won the US Elite Nationals Points race back-to-back 2010 and 2011, lapping the field (which included Olympians) both years, was a low-tier former pro roadie. Coincidental/Lucky lightning doesn't strike the same place twice. That was strength and skill.

I think he was team manager of the development squad or something (not sure on how all that works) for Team Type 1 (now Novo Nordisk). Dan Holt.

He was local to DLV and spoke with him. He was 100% gung-ho to represent the US in international competition (World Cups, Pan Ams, etc...), but it's my understanding that they passed on him in favor of other riders.

So, I know it's costly to scour the country for untapped talent like British Cycling did before their rise to prominence by taking ergos to schools and testing kids and whatnot. But, geez, you got thousands of roadies with billions of miles in their legs to pick from. Pick some, pay them, groom them, profit.

I know the top guys won't bite (Phinney was supposed to be the next great track champion for the ages, but passed to race road), but there are guys and ladies slugging it out being domestiques hauling water bottles up hills for minimum wage when they could actually be Olympic caliber trackies. Get them on board.

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