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Old 07-02-23, 04:08 PM
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Psa - be safe this holiday weekend

I was riding northbound along Hermosa Avenue going ~15 mph, staying to the right as required by the vehicle code. I came alongside a parked minivan and as I got half way past the sliding door, the driver "throws" open their door right in front of me.

Never before in my entire life have I made such a quick reaction maneuver while on a bicycle.

Thank God, there was no car to my left. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

This makes twice in the last 6 months were I have had a similar thing happen - both in the same area.

Thanks also to Bob Jackson, wherever you are. Your quick-handling bike is the only reason I was able to avoid both these incidents.

The vehicle code requires you to ride to the right as far as is practicable but the driving safely provisions over-ride all other code subsections.

I simply can no longer ride that far to the right. It is NOT SAFE. I need more room to protect myself from careless drivers (defensive driving).

BE SAFE OUT THERE, PEOPLE!
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Old 07-02-23, 04:43 PM
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We live in so much danger.

I always look for a driver’s head silhouette, problem is a van usually has tinted rear / side windows, even now driver door windows on most any type of car.
could also be just the OC driver attitude.
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Old 07-02-23, 04:51 PM
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I never ride in the door zone but fortunately there are relatively few places where that's an issue where I live. Outside of residential streets there isn't much on street parking. Residential streets have light enough traffic that you easily ride well away from. The few busier streets with such parking have bike lanes outside the door zone. Or sharrows.
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Originally Posted by repechage
We live in so much danger.

I always look for a driver’s head silhouette, problem is a van usually has tinted rear / side windows, even now driver door windows on most any type of car.
could also be just the OC driver attitude.
Doesn't help. Years ago a woman was riding along in town and an idiot leaned over to get something from the passenger side and kicked the door open while he was still invisible. Right into the woman, of course. She was wearing a helmet but still sustained major head injuries.
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Old 07-02-23, 10:04 PM
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Think safety.

Safety first.
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Old 07-03-23, 05:31 AM
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I don't ride in door zones. I move out in traffic from my normal FRAP location prior to entering zone.
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There are hundreds of people across the United States that don't know they've just had their last weekend with 10 fingers...
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Hmm... I should be safe on the holiday weekend?

What about all the other days?
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Originally Posted by Bad Lag
I was riding northbound along Hermosa Avenue going ~15 mph, staying to the right as required by the vehicle code. I came alongside a parked minivan and as I got half way past the sliding door, the driver "throws" open their door right in front of me.
The vehicle code only requires this if only it's safe to do so. Riding in the door zone isn't safe (fairly objectively).

Oh, and California is notable in that it's less restrictive than other states with respect to "staying to the right".

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Thanks also to Bob Jackson, wherever you are. Your quick-handling bike is the only reason I was able to avoid both these incidents.
People would be better off recognizing danger zones and avoiding them.

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Old 07-03-23, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Korina
Originally Posted by repechage
I always look for a driver’s head silhouette, problem is a van usually has tinted rear / side windows, even now driver door windows on most any type of car.
could also be just the OC driver attitude.
Doesn't help. Years ago a woman was riding along in town and an idiot leaned over to get something from the passenger side and kicked the door open while he was still invisible. Right into the woman, of course. She was wearing a helmet but still sustained major head injuries.
Sure it helps. It just isn't perfect. (You are better off not being in the door zone.)

@repechage's is good advice (and easy to do) even if it's not going to be perfect.
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Old 07-17-23, 04:10 PM
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Gentlemen,

I have a new name for an old concept.

THE DOOR ZONE

It has become my new mantra, as I retrain myself not to ride in the door zone. As I gravitate to the far right I catch myself and say (to myself), "Stay out of the foot zone!"
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And if you are in a bicycle race stay out of the selfie zone!

Actually this is one instance where I muse that the pillory should be brought back and the person left in the town square for the rest of the day!
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