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Chamois Butt'r
Need some more chamois butter.
I used the original formula.
Now they got stuff for her, embrocation, eurostyle, to go along with the original formula.
Any advantage to the new types or just go with the old tried and true?
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Cranky
I used the original formula.
Now they got stuff for her, embrocation, eurostyle, to go along with the original formula.
Any advantage to the new types or just go with the old tried and true?
Regards,
Cranky
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Buy shorts that fit properly. Wash well with non chlorine bleach to sanitize them after every ride. Don't wear underwear under your riding shorts. Especially not cotton underwear.
Never been chafed bad enough to need grease.
Never been chafed bad enough to need grease.
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With your user name, go with the original for sure. It'll work just as well as it always has, and you won't encourage the marketing majors.
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After going through several tubes of Butt'r and being unhappy with the cost, I looked for a low-price alternative. Decided to give the cream from Udderly Smooth a try, and have not been disappointed. Works every bit as well as other brands, but costs about 1/3 as much. OP, ignore ANY post saying that you're doing something personally requiring you to use cream when you don't need it. Some people need it, some people don't. I don't use it for 50-60 mile rides, but if I'm heading out planning on 90+, some Udderly Smooth goes on the chamois. It seems that for me, when getting up past 20,000 pedal strokes some cream really helps.
With my amount of use, the $12 worth from Amazon lasts over a year, @ 10,000 miles a year.
With my amount of use, the $12 worth from Amazon lasts over a year, @ 10,000 miles a year.
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More "differences" than "advantages." The original stuff is a pretty straightforward chamois cream. Eurostyle is similar, but has a mint-like cooling sensation where applied. I've never used Embrocation, but it's designed to give a warming sensation for use in cold weather; it comes in "warm" and "hot" varieties.
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Has anyone made their own? Would you have the "recipe"?
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I tried using Butt Butter back in 2011 when I did my first MS150 and it was like sitting on a soiled diaper. Never used it since. I found that with a proper bike fit, the proper saddle and good fitting shorts I didn't need it. However, I do use Gold Bond Healing lotion after every shower. I just finished a 230 mile, cross state ride two weekends ago and never had a problem. Lots of saddle time also helps with the problem.
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Maybe it's just coincidence, but even on long rides I haven't found a need for chamois/skin treatments since going to Brooks saddles several decades ago.
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I use it every ride. I've had a bike fit. Chamois Butt'r still helps. At the moment my butt is still re-hardening after almost 3 months off the bike due to a pulmonary embolism. Possibly I need to replace my knicks - the pads may be getting a bit tired.
In case you weren't aware, chamois cream is not a lubricant, it is an adhesive. It makes the garment stick to you - that is how it stops chafing. Zinc nappy cream works as well, albeit more messily.
I used to use Assos. I find Chamois Butt'r works just as well but the tube lasts much longer and is cheaper to boot.
In case you weren't aware, chamois cream is not a lubricant, it is an adhesive. It makes the garment stick to you - that is how it stops chafing. Zinc nappy cream works as well, albeit more messily.
I used to use Assos. I find Chamois Butt'r works just as well but the tube lasts much longer and is cheaper to boot.
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I agree but would add - get a saddle that fits properly. It should not touch the inside of your thighs when pedaling and you could be able to have both sit bones in contact with the wide part of the saddle when you are riding. The rest is just hardening up the area around the sit bones and you can ride forever without much pain. And no chafing.
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Once in a while my partner will get a tender spot,
I always volunteer to apply some Chamois Butt'r.
It comes in small easy to carry packets,
She usually doesn't let me apply the Butt'r,
But does take a packet for self medication.
I always volunteer to apply some Chamois Butt'r.
It comes in small easy to carry packets,
She usually doesn't let me apply the Butt'r,
But does take a packet for self medication.
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Biked 202 miles Saturday and applied some Butt'r at the start then at 101 miles. Have a half marathon in a couple of weeks and will put on feet before socks go on and same in January for full marathon and another half marathon.
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Body Glide is better. Every triathlete and half the runners on the planet have a stick in their gear bag.
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The problem with most of these preparations is that people use WAY too much. Rub in a thin layer just to the areas subject to friction/chaffing. After a minute or so, lightly wipe off any excess and get dressed. I treat the friction areas on my feet the same way.
If a light application doesn't do the trick, I'd look very carefully at bike fit, saddle, clothing and other potential problem areas. I don't think my skin is any tougher than most, and I'm overweight, but I ride in mid-level shorts (Primal or Aerotech) or on casual rides, athletic trunks under MTB/trekking shorts, sometimes even jean shorts. I've done many 50 -100+ mile rides, including some in the 90s F and humid, but have only had very mild chaffing on extremely rare occasions. Never had a saddle sore yet.
I won't say that nobody should ever need chamois creme, but if you are relying on heavy layers of it for rides of just a few hours or less, something else is wrong.
If a light application doesn't do the trick, I'd look very carefully at bike fit, saddle, clothing and other potential problem areas. I don't think my skin is any tougher than most, and I'm overweight, but I ride in mid-level shorts (Primal or Aerotech) or on casual rides, athletic trunks under MTB/trekking shorts, sometimes even jean shorts. I've done many 50 -100+ mile rides, including some in the 90s F and humid, but have only had very mild chaffing on extremely rare occasions. Never had a saddle sore yet.
I won't say that nobody should ever need chamois creme, but if you are relying on heavy layers of it for rides of just a few hours or less, something else is wrong.
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Body Glide is better.
Every triathlete and half the runners on the planet has a stick in their gear bag.
-Tim-
Every triathlete and half the runners on the planet has a stick in their gear bag.
-Tim-
If I'm doing 50+ miles, I use the Butt'r.
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Chamois Buttr- No cooling effect, lasts over 50 miles, less expensive
Eurostyle Chamois Buttr-Cooling effect, lasts over 50 miles, less expensive. Cooling effect only seems to be initial application and wears off.
Embrocation- Not for chamois, contains Capsaicin and the like. warming/burning effect for muscles like Ben Gay
Performance Chamois butter, thin and doesn't last over 50 miles, least expensive "chamois" creme. (Don't recommend)
Assos, similar consistency to chamois buttr, lasts over 50 miles expensive (I like this one) still evaluating over 50 miles.
Petroleum jelly, clogs up chamois on shorts, hard to wash
Bag balm, similar to petroleum jelly but thicker. Works better than petroleum jelly, hard to wash out
Body Glide, didn't work for me over 50 miles
Sports slick, Thick like bag balm. Washes out of chamois, hard to find. Lasts over 100 miles (I like this one)
These are the ones that I have tried. I still need to try DZnuts. The best deal for me is the Eurostyle Chamois Buttr for rides around 50 miles. Over 50, I use the Sports Slick.
I am using these to limit friction and reduce the intrusion of bacteria into an abrasion. Wash shorts every time.
Eurostyle Chamois Buttr-Cooling effect, lasts over 50 miles, less expensive. Cooling effect only seems to be initial application and wears off.
Embrocation- Not for chamois, contains Capsaicin and the like. warming/burning effect for muscles like Ben Gay
Performance Chamois butter, thin and doesn't last over 50 miles, least expensive "chamois" creme. (Don't recommend)
Assos, similar consistency to chamois buttr, lasts over 50 miles expensive (I like this one) still evaluating over 50 miles.
Petroleum jelly, clogs up chamois on shorts, hard to wash
Bag balm, similar to petroleum jelly but thicker. Works better than petroleum jelly, hard to wash out
Body Glide, didn't work for me over 50 miles
Sports slick, Thick like bag balm. Washes out of chamois, hard to find. Lasts over 100 miles (I like this one)
These are the ones that I have tried. I still need to try DZnuts. The best deal for me is the Eurostyle Chamois Buttr for rides around 50 miles. Over 50, I use the Sports Slick.
I am using these to limit friction and reduce the intrusion of bacteria into an abrasion. Wash shorts every time.
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LBS stocks 'Chamois Buttr' there are individual use packets and a larger size tubes..
I toured with a small vial of surgeons scrub, a liquid concentrate soap , to wash 'down there' ...
and bring 3 pair of bike shorts to always have a clean pair daily..
(used only 1 topical neosporin application to 1 hot spot, that was just beginning to be inflamed, at night )
Tour was 3 seasons, of the various British Isles ..
....
I toured with a small vial of surgeons scrub, a liquid concentrate soap , to wash 'down there' ...
and bring 3 pair of bike shorts to always have a clean pair daily..
(used only 1 topical neosporin application to 1 hot spot, that was just beginning to be inflamed, at night )
Tour was 3 seasons, of the various British Isles ..
....
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Embrocation is for legs to keep warm. You will not be happy with this in the shorts.
I've been using Betwixt. More natural ingredients, similar to Chamois Butt'r in use. It was a gift but would buy again.
Use it for >100 miles
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The problem with most of these preparations is that people use WAY too much. Rub in a thin layer just to the areas subject to friction/chaffing.
I won't say that nobody should ever need chamois creme, but if you are relying on heavy layers of it for rides of just a few hours or less, something else is wrong.
I won't say that nobody should ever need chamois creme, but if you are relying on heavy layers of it for rides of just a few hours or less, something else is wrong.
Yup. I don't use it much, and when I do I don't use gobs of it. I have always wondered about the people who complain about the cost. You shouldn't be using a large tube of the stuff every month.
I did wish I had some during my tow week tour in MT and ID back in June, but that was because I was often in the saddle for literally more than 6 hrs./day (loaded touring in hilly/mountainous terrain can be slow) and it was often very hot and sometimes humid. Did a lot of sweating with little evaporation.