What's with the Weight Weenies?
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Weight is easily quantifiable but rider power is not. Thus weight becomes a means by which you can readily compare yourself with other bicyclists, if that's important to you.
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I think the OP is jealous as most people who complain about WW are. Yes it does cost some money (a lot in some cases) but some people have that money.
I am 42 I own my own business and yes I ride a $12,000 11 pound bike. Does that make me wrong well that is a matter of opinion. I can afford it so what is the problem. As a matter of fact I can ride as well. I am 5' 10' 145 pounds I have done a sub 4 hour century and I love to ride. does a ww bike make me faster well maybe a very very little on the climbs but that is not why I do it. I do it because I enjoy it, so get over it and go ride your 20 lbs bike and be happy with it. Quit complaining about what others like and do what you like. If we were all the same than this would be one boring world.
Just my opinion!!
I am 42 I own my own business and yes I ride a $12,000 11 pound bike. Does that make me wrong well that is a matter of opinion. I can afford it so what is the problem. As a matter of fact I can ride as well. I am 5' 10' 145 pounds I have done a sub 4 hour century and I love to ride. does a ww bike make me faster well maybe a very very little on the climbs but that is not why I do it. I do it because I enjoy it, so get over it and go ride your 20 lbs bike and be happy with it. Quit complaining about what others like and do what you like. If we were all the same than this would be one boring world.
Just my opinion!!
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Remember when a bike that was less than 20 lbs was great? These days that's easy to get at $2k. Now less than 15 lbs is the new goal it seems, but you have to spend exponentially more to save more weight. Have you noticed these people could save money and more weight by loosing it from their body? From what I see on the road these weight weenies are ridiculous. Anyone else noticing this fad going to a new level?
P.S. Remember that with motor sports they mostly upgrade for engine power instead of weight savings. We can upgrade engine power by spending time on our bikes (and not money).
P.S. Remember that with motor sports they mostly upgrade for engine power instead of weight savings. We can upgrade engine power by spending time on our bikes (and not money).
Twenty years ago I was content racing a 22lbs Trek. To try and break into the teens would have been absurd. Now the new "20" is sub 15. Welcome to technology and progress. And as in all leading edge technologies - early adopters, in this case the sub 12 lbs bike - will pay a high price. But it's their choice as nobody is forcing them. would I do it? No. As I'm not typically an early adopter. I didn't buy blu ray players when they first came out.
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Just so the OP doesn't feel all alone in this thread - I understand what you're saying. But oftentimes, how you say something is equally important as what you say.
Twenty years ago I was content racing a 22lbs Trek. To try and break into the teens would have been absurd. Now the new "20" is sub 15. Welcome to technology and progress. And as in all leading edge technologies - early adopters, in this case the sub 12 lbs bike - will pay a high price. But it's their choice as nobody is forcing them. would I do it? No. As I'm not typically an early adopter. I didn't buy blu ray players when they first came out.
Twenty years ago I was content racing a 22lbs Trek. To try and break into the teens would have been absurd. Now the new "20" is sub 15. Welcome to technology and progress. And as in all leading edge technologies - early adopters, in this case the sub 12 lbs bike - will pay a high price. But it's their choice as nobody is forcing them. would I do it? No. As I'm not typically an early adopter. I didn't buy blu ray players when they first came out.
OP, spend your money on what you like, I'll spend mine on what I like.
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I have to admit I scratch my head when I see someone that is 30 or 40 pounds overweight obsessing and paying double for a bike part that weighs a few grams more than another....Its their money I guess.
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Cutting weight on both you body and bike is a great way to climb better. Some people have money for fancy lightweight bike parts, others dont. Dont be a hater.
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I go back and forth between weight weenie and not caring. My Cervelo weighs right about 16.3 lbs with alloy seatpost,stem,handlebar and a heavy set of Mavic Ksyrium Equipes. This is the weight with bottle cages, pedals, Garmin 705, cadence/speed sensor. Think of all the crap you stuff in your jersey pockets while riding. Tubes, CO2, Gel packets, Tire levers, cell phone, etc....
I love seeing these light bikes but I'm not going to try to build one right now. Maybe if I raced I would care a little more. Don't all UCI legal bike have to weigh at least 14.9 lbs?
I love seeing these light bikes but I'm not going to try to build one right now. Maybe if I raced I would care a little more. Don't all UCI legal bike have to weigh at least 14.9 lbs?
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I go back and forth between weight weenie and not caring. My Cervelo weighs right about 16.3 lbs with alloy seatpost,stem,handlebar and a heavy set of Mavic Ksyrium Equipes. This is the weight with bottle cages, pedals, Garmin 705, cadence/speed sensor. Think of all the crap you stuff in your jersey pockets while riding. Tubes, CO2, Gel packets, Tire levers, cell phone, etc....
I love seeing these light bikes but I'm not going to try to build one right now. Maybe if I raced I would care a little more. Don't all UCI legal bike have to weigh at least 14.9 lbs?
I love seeing these light bikes but I'm not going to try to build one right now. Maybe if I raced I would care a little more. Don't all UCI legal bike have to weigh at least 14.9 lbs?
hodie - you know where I am coming from on this one, but even though I sell bling I find myself saying this quite often, " I NEVER lost a race because I had too many spokes or because my bike was too heavy. I have lost EVERY race I have entered because either I was in worse shape, read the race incorrectly, or desired the win just that much less than the person who won. Period."
While racing you get to the point where you just want to make sure you have something that rides and performs well and won't break on you or cause issues or problems at the last minute - when you're trying to focus on the task at hand.
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If I don't spend my time, energy and money on lightening the weight of my bike, what am I supposed to do? Solve world hunger?
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Actually you would probably care less.
hodie - you know where I am coming from on this one, but even though I sell bling I find myself saying this quite often, " I NEVER lost a race because I had too many spokes or because my bike was too heavy. I have lost EVERY race I have entered because either I was in worse shape, read the race incorrectly, or desired the win just that much less than the person who won. Period."
While racing you get to the point where you just want to make sure you have something that rides and performs well and won't break on you or cause issues or problems at the last minute - when you're trying to focus on the task at hand.
hodie - you know where I am coming from on this one, but even though I sell bling I find myself saying this quite often, " I NEVER lost a race because I had too many spokes or because my bike was too heavy. I have lost EVERY race I have entered because either I was in worse shape, read the race incorrectly, or desired the win just that much less than the person who won. Period."
While racing you get to the point where you just want to make sure you have something that rides and performs well and won't break on you or cause issues or problems at the last minute - when you're trying to focus on the task at hand.
Some day I might get good enough that the extra few pounds on my bike will make a difference. At that point, I'll get a lighter bike. If I had the money I'd get one now, but I already spend a ton on race fees, travel, coaching, fixing all the crap I am constantly breaking, etc. For now I just want stuff that works so that I can train a lot and get stronger.
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You can go beyond 'sport' and just leave it with the wider reaching 'hobby' - people that like to cook like nice gear, as do photographers, audiophiles (ick - hate the term), RC folks, etc, etc. I tend to think that a lot, but not most (IME), do get in to a gearhead phase, but it'll eventually ease off. Some lucky people will reach a point where they're satisfied with what they have and others will crest a personal summit and decide that the view wasn't what they'd hoped - these disillusioned are the worst. Because they didn't get the results that they wanted, they often feel the need to rail against the proponents of quality gear.
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+1. And when I bought my Wilier, that was my target weight - to be just above the legal limit. But thats just me.....I wouldn't buy non-legal golf clubs either.
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