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Old 03-31-18, 04:47 PM
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That Schwinn looks like a threaded cable guide. A little different concept from the others, but still interesting.
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Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post
That Schwinn looks like a threaded cable guide. A little different concept from the others, but still interesting.
The guide pops in and afterwards there remains an opening. Drain hole, voila.
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Old 08-31-19, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude View Post
I forgot one:



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Was going to guess "Lotus", but...no, not correct...it's a Somec, right?
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Was going to guess...it's a Somec, right?


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From My Saronni

Not sure who built this bike.
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I've seen it before, but can't recall...if you scroll up the post #146 you see a "strap" cable guide that Pinarello used a lot on slotted BB shells such as this, but for some reason a faint voice in the back of my mind is saying "Olmo" or "Atala". But should I or anybody listen to such voices?
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Identical bottom from "The Italian Built Nishiki " thread
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Unknown bottom bracket

Does anyone recognise this bb/

The track fork tips are Shimano



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Never seen that sort of combo of 6 round with 3 slightly oval holes in any BB shell before, but seems to have some stylish details! Is the threading ISO? How about some more pix?
And a general "stir-it-up" question: why drainholes in a track frame? Unless it's intended to get road/training use I'd think no need in a bike that will be used "indoors".
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LLewellyn BB shell and unidentified bike bb shell

The frame has a 68mm bb shell and 137 x 24 tpi [English]

The headtube steerer has been cut very short for either a Japanese headset or a Campi record steel headset. I have a Campi SR one and the spacer means it wont fully fit.

The steerer tube doesnt have rifling.

I read that Italian framebuilders lowered weight in the BB shell but English framemakers rarely did it.

I seem to recall from Halpin Cycles in Shepparton that they had track frames with similar drilled BBs and that these were made in South Australia.




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why drainholes in a track frame?
Speed holes
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Old 04-26-20, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by campagnolo kid View Post
I asked Darrell to throw in a 4 leaf clover BB motif at no cost, but instead he added it inside the junction of the downtube and top tube.
Got some pics? When did Darrell build your frame?

My McBain has Shimano track ends and fork tips, but no serial number. Your frame has a few McBain-esque features; open stay ends, double plate fork crown, drilled track ends, but confirming that will be almost impossible.
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Old 04-26-20, 01:10 AM
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On the "speed holes" point I have a 17t duralumin 3/32 Zeus track cog that Gary Sutton gave me. He had thinned it to save weight.

The Llewellyn is number 282 from 2004.

Ive got a lot of pictures as he building it somewhere on a computer.

The holes for the bottle biddons cages, brake bridge and tube between the chaistays are all lugged. The fork crown is a Nagasawa.

The twin plate fork crown on the unnamed frame is quite beautiful but not as curvy as a Masi [like the 1974 Carslsblad which I imported and sold in Canberra] because the plates don't fully follow the curves of the tubes like Masi plates do.

The name Paino has been suggested for the track frame.

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Originally Posted by campagnolo kid View Post
On the "speed holes" point I have a 17t duralumin 3/32 Zeus track cog that Gary Sutton gave me. He had thinned it to save weight.
Oh - do you know Gary? This is currently for sale on Gumtree: https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/drum...ame/1246052418

We were debating on the BNA forums whether it was that Gary or a different Garry. (Apparently Gary Sutton was also known as Garry Sutton.)

Regarding your track frame, I don't know enough about Painos to say either way, but I would have expected to see a clover or 'P' cutout on a Paino. Having said that, I think Frank may have done those chamfered stay ends, so...
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No, i don't know Gary, the track cyclist.

Looks like "Paino" it is or Wayne "Kotzur" [as no-one knows].

I'd love to use "De Rosa" or "Pogliaghi" but that would look wrong with Shimano track tips and ends.

I have owned 2 Pogliaghi track frames (post "PSM").

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drillium dude, just went to the garage and checked my 68 Masi Special with std. reach Campy
brakes the front pads are at the top of the slot. I've owned that bike for 46 yrs. and stared at it for hours
and never noticed that b4!
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The blue is a 1975 Raleigh Professional built at the Carlton Worksop Cycleworks - the cutouts are ‘CC’ for Carlton Cycles.
https://on-the-drops.blogspot.com/20...leigh.html?m=1

The orange one is a repainted 1988 Schwinn Premis. The hole is actually a screw hole to hold a plastic cable guide but it works as a drain hole now.

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There's already a bunch of these in here, but here's mine:

Guerciotti SL. post re-packing bb, pre touch-up paint.
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For future reference, please share the makers. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by garryg View Post
Identical bottom from "The Italian Built Nishiki " thread
I recognize this! Iím pretty sure it was built by Colnago... Iím still waiting how it turned out. I shipped it to Allan Wanta in Florida for repaint, so Iím sure itís gorgeous now!

here are some more holes:

80ís F. Moser




Ď78 Colnago - on deck!



Ciocc Designer 84 - thatís seen better days


Colnago built Nishiki

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