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Old 05-04-20, 03:06 PM
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FS: Gianni Motta Personal 2001R 52cm frame and fork

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[EDIT: It appears that the frame was mislabeled when re-painted, and it is most likely a Personal model, rather than a Personal 2001R.]


Hey guys!

I hate to be selling this, but I think it's a tiny bit too small for me, and as the current crisis hit me pretty hard financially, some stuff will have to go. I'll be posting more parts in the following weeks, so stay tuned.

Here is a fantastic Gianni Motta Personal 2001R 52 cm steel frame. The paint is brand new, all done by a pro at the Marinoni factory near Montreal. The bike has never been built since, so this is as shiny as it gets, really! This bike is light and majestic looking. I would have loved to have it built, but the universe had other plans.

The frame includes:
-Original steel fork
-Gipiemme headset
-120mm Cinelli Stem
-40 cm Cinelli Giro D'Italia handlebar (I can change it for a 42 cm handlebar, just let me know what's your personal preference)
-Black Ritchey Comp 2-bolt seatpost (the lightest I found, weighting less than 250g)
-Plastic Gianni Motta handlebar plugs (bought new from eBay, 100% fake)

The seatpost is 27.0 mm but I still had to sand it down to make it fit. Just let me know if you prefer not to have it and I'll take it out.

Of course, you can let me know if you have any questions and I'll be pleased to answer. I can also send additional pictures upon request.

Measurements (c-c):
Seat tube: 52 cm
Top tube: 53 cm
Down tube: 60 cm









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Old 05-05-20, 08:50 AM
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Giovanni Motta was a customer of mine at a bike shop in NYC. But not that Gianni Motta. He had just learned that he shared his name with a famous cyclist. He is a statistician at Columbia University.
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Love the color way on this. How y’all are you? Just curious if it would fit me.
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Originally Posted by Mushrooom View Post

Here is a fantastic Gianni Motta Personal 2001R 52 cm steel frame.
Can you measure and post top tube length as well? 52cm - is this C/C or C/T? Got a buddy who sounds interested.
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Old 05-05-20, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 6Speed View Post
Love the color way on this. How y’all are you? Just curious if it would fit me.
Hey there! I'm 5'7. I'm pretty sure this frame could work for me with the 120mm stem, but it would be best suited for a 5'3-5'6 rider. That being said, when you really like a frame, you always find a way to make it fit!

Originally Posted by AJI125 View Post
Can you measure and post top tube length as well? 52cm - is this C/C or C/T? Got a buddy who sounds interested.
Hey Alex! The seat tube is 52 cm and the top tube is 53 cm (all measurements are center to center). I'm not sure about the down tube, so I'll have a look later today!
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OK, questions, this frame does not have the trans-tork seat stays? Would that alone not make it a 2000 or lesser model as opposed to a 2001? Does the BB have dual stiffing/reenforcement fins? The rear dropouts are brazed into the seat stays and not over over the seat stays correct, difficult to distinguish from your pictures?

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I, too, was curious about the TransTork seat stay reference in the advert.

I dug up this old thread which helped mark the differences between the Personal 2001 and the 2000:
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...l#post11041809

This quote from Ex Pres in particular from that thread was helpful in explaining the TransTork stays.Be sure to click the "Here's a pic" link in the quote below:

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The trans-tork seatstays are "bent" in above the brake bridge. Easily distinguishable. If it just looks like a normal seatstay then you have a Personal 2000, like mine. From that pic I would guess yours has them.

Here's a pic in the catalog of the T-T seatstay

The date code will be on the back of the crank arm. Should say something like 175 STRADA <4>, with the number in a circle or a diamond. That number will be the date code.
Nice frame regardless.
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Originally Posted by gaucho777 View Post
I, too, was curious about the TransTork seat stay reference in the advert.

I dug up this old thread which helped mark the differences between the Personal 2001 and the 2000:
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...l#post11041809

This quote from Ex Pres in particular from that thread was helpful in explaining the TransTork stays.Be sure to click the "Here's a pic" link in the quote below:



Nice frame regardless.

Yep, I am calling it mis-labled and hopefully not deception, however certainly of lesser value. Agreed nice paint scheme.
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m_sasso gaucho777 Thank you very much for the heads up on what appears to be a clear case of mis-labeling. I just took as many pictures as I could of the tricky parts of the bike so that it's easier to identify the correct model. Bike was not mine when it was re-painted. It was sold to me by a trusted person, so I didn't do much research after that.

Forgive me for this error, it was certainly not my intention to mislead anyone.

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If I didn't have a Battaglin in the same scheme....
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If I didn't have a Battaglin in the same scheme....
What's wrong with a pair?
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Yer killing' me, man....
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And...... SOLD! This one is going to Oklahoma!
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Originally Posted by gaucho777 View Post
I, too, was curious about the TransTork seat stay reference in the advert.

I dug up this old thread which helped mark the differences between the Personal 2001 and the 2000:
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...l#post11041809

This quote from Ex Pres in particular from that thread was helpful in explaining the TransTork stays.Be sure to click the "Here's a pic" link in the quote below:



Nice frame regardless.
I stayed out of this, as I had not seen the frame prior to repaint - but happy to see all turned out well.
What I did find a little ironic - the paint scheme on the frame for sale was what I initially planned to do with mine; but I ended up copying the paint scheme on the bike in the link I provided.
Turns out I would have liked the Italian flag colors.
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I've always jonesed for that color scheme. But I never pulled the trigger because I suspected that it was marketed to "dumb" Americans in love with Italian mystique. Would real Italians really ride that color scheme on real roads in Italy? Inquiring minds want to know!
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Of course!
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