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Old 06-21-19, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jackbombay View Post
I want to build a pedal assist bike with a 2 stroke motor, just to push the point that pedal assist IS motorized.

It'd be rather easy to build, something that drags on the BB spindle pulls the throttle cable and makes the engine go BRAAPPPP!!!! One of the cheapo chainsaw motors with a centrifugal clutch on a rack on the back of the bike with a couple of gear reductions which ends up pulling on the largest cog on the back of the mountain bike could be put together in a couple evenings in the laboratory...
Please don't.
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Old 06-21-19, 09:31 PM
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Please don't.
But, it would be an amazing sociological experiment!
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Old 06-21-19, 10:11 PM
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My bicycles don't have a motor. Technically, what are they? Motor-less bicycles? Non-Assisted-Pedal-Bikes? Non-Pedal-Assisted-Bikes? I don't have a power meter on my bicycles. When I tell people that I ride my bike to work, and they ask me how many watts does my bicycle have, I feel curmudgeonly because I have no idea how many watts my bicycle has and cannot answer what I'm told is a reasonable question of someone who rides a bicycle.
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“Error code 16 indicates the micro flux capacitor has failed. This will overload the EPS conduits and power relays in the Jeffries downtube and destabilize the dilithium crystal chamber matrix shutting down the circular loop drive. User must then engage bipedal impulse drive to maintain forward momentum. Failure to obtain repairs in a timely manner at the nearest starbase will result in permanent damage to the loop drive system.

Start pedaling now because it’s a long, long way back.
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“Error code 16 indicates the micro flux capacitor has failed. This will overload the EPS conduits and power relays in the Jeffries downtube and destabilize the dilithium crystal chamber matrix shutting down the circular loop drive. User must then engage bipedal impulse drive to maintain forward momentum. Failure to obtain repairs in a timely manner at the nearest starbase will result in permanent damage to the loop drive system.

Start pedaling now because it’s a long, long way back.
Or just ask Scotty to fix it by cleverly re-routing the power relays by bypassing the overload in the Jeffries circuit through the Roddenberry chainstays - a bypass system that will take no more than 2.5 minutes to rig up, despite having never been done before in any previous episode.

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Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
Or just ask Scotty to fix it by cleverly re-routing the power relays by bypassing the overload in the Jeffries circuit through the Roddenberry chainstays - a bypass system that will take no more than 2.5 minutes to rig up, despite having never been done before in any previous episode.

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Does that account for the Herbert random variable?
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Originally Posted by non-fixie View Post
Today a coworker came up to me:

Coworker: "I've heard you know a thing or two about bicycles"
Me: "Well, I guess I do"
Coworker: "What does error code 16 mean?"
Me: "......."

Thanks for a hilarious start to my day.
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Old 06-22-19, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
Does that account for the Herbert random variable?

Bonus points if you recognize where Geo got the "base plate of prefabulated amulite" gag from.

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really interesting, I recall reading something that suggested that e-bikes were getting big in the Netherlands....... I would guess that it is because as i understand it bike usage is generally looked at as practical transportation and an e-bike enhances that usage
Exactly. The numbers I posted above are actually a bit misleading, as the "normal" bike sales number includes kiddy bikes, racing bikes, mountain bikes and other niche products. Sales of city bikes, the "old normal" and the non-assisted counterpart of the e-bike, have actually fallen below those of the e-bikes for the first time in 2018.
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Originally Posted by Classtime View Post
My bicycles don't have a motor. Technically, what are they? Motor-less bicycles? Non-Assisted-Pedal-Bikes? Non-Pedal-Assisted-Bikes? I don't have a power meter on my bicycles. When I tell people that I ride my bike to work, and they ask me how many watts does my bicycle have, I feel curmudgeonly because I have no idea how many watts my bicycle has and cannot answer what I'm told is a reasonable question of someone who rides a bicycle.
Well, I can at least be of some value here, and answer that question. Your bikes have no watts. Neither do mine. You and I have to bring our own watts. Our progress is our own achievement.
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Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
Or just ask Scotty to fix it by cleverly re-routing the power relays by bypassing the overload in the Jeffries circuit through the Roddenberry chainstays - a bypass system that will take no more than 2.5 minutes to rig up, despite having never been done before in any previous episode.

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By the way, read this on Twitter today:


I encourage everyone to read the whole thread.

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Old 06-22-19, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
Does that account for the Herbert random variable?
The Heisenberg Compensators take care of that. Well, maybe they do.....
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Old 06-22-19, 06:18 PM
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My bicycles tend to communicate the error codes via mechanical noises and, if the error is severe enough, tactile feedback. The flat tire alarm could be a lot more subtle.
I know my bikes error codes by sound, by feel, by tactile feedback, and by how it responds. In NPR lingo, Click and Clack codes.

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By the way, read this on Twitter today: https://twitter.com/RobinMazumder/st...74106098634752

I encourage everyone to read the whole thread.

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No hate on e-bikes here. I just don't consider them bicycles, that's all.
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I just don't consider them bicycles, that's all.
Exactly.

I don't care that you actuate the motor with the pedals, that's irrelevant, it's the fact that it has a motor that is relevant, not how the motor is actuated.
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The Heisenberg Compensators take care of that. Well, maybe they do.....
And the puppeteers applauded.
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Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
Or just ask Scotty to fix it by cleverly re-routing the power relays by bypassing the overload in the Jeffries circuit through the Roddenberry chainstays - a bypass system that will take no more than 2.5 minutes to rig up, despite having never been done before in any previous episode.

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(rider) Scotty I need more Power!
(Pedal Assist) I'm giving her all she's got Captain, if I push it any harder the whole thing 'll blow!
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(rider) Scotty I need more Power!
(Pedal Assist) I'm giving her all she's got Captain, if I push it any harder the whole thing 'll blow!
I would definitely ride a pedelec that'd do that every time I'd exceed the assist

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Real bikes don't have batteries save for lights…
Oh ladeedah, aren't you fancy. Batteries for your lights. I thought this was the C&V board, where our lights run on kerosene.
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Oh ladeedah, aren't you fancy. Batteries for your lights. I thought this was the C&V board, where our lights run on kerosene.
carbide..... put the powder in, add water, click the sparker and get light
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I'm not against new technology and I understand how pedal assist works. What I am against is defining an e-bike as a bicycle. When you add a motor, it fundamentally changes the concept. It doesn't matter what fantastic new tech is governing the application of power from the motor. The fact is that there is a motor, a second source of power that is not the human riding it. This is not even remotely equivalent to other advances in bicycle technology, such as: tension spokes, pneumatic tires, derailleur gears, hollow steel tubes, etc.

Also, many e-bikes are not pedal assist, but operate like traditional mopeds or motorized bicycles.

Here in LA, e-bikes are often used on bike and multi use paths, to circumvent traffic. I consider this an abuse and I am against that. Motor + pedals = moped. E-bikes may be a great improvement for the general population's simply getting around. They are certainly more environmentally friendly than cars. I'm not against them, only think bicycles should be considered a separate category.
You can't lump all ebikes in with people who make electric motor bikes. Have you tried road-legal systems? I don't know the rules in California but where I am the 500 watt system is an assist. They aren't a magic cure for not going fast.
In general a MUP should have a speed limit.
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You can't lump all ebikes in with people who make electric motor bikes. Have you tried road-legal systems? I don't know the rules in California but where I am the 500 watt system is an assist. They aren't a magic cure for not going fast.
In general a MUP should have a speed limit.
In California, only roads have enforceable speed limits and that is where motor assisted vehicles belong. The motor on my Subaru assists getting on the freeway and cuts out on the exits.
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In California, only roads have enforceable speed limits and that is where motor assisted vehicles belong. The motor on my Subaru assists getting on the freeway and cuts out on the exits.
they actually (if rarely) have speed checks/stop on the Los Gatos Creek trail in San jose area (it hits san jose, campbell and saratoga)

my bike motor (me) helps going down hill and cuts out on the hills it needs more training and less weight
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