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Water bottle or other options to mist and/or sip without a backpack?

Old 07-24-19, 09:35 AM
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Water bottle or other options to mist and/or sip without a backpack?

I've been looking for options to keep cool and hydrate more frequently during hot weather rides. I'd prefer not to wear a backpack but I do have a large rack pack commuter bag that I could keep something in.

My perfect find would be a bottle (for a cage) or a bladder (for the rack bag) with a hose attachment that had some sort of a trigger sprayer misting device as well as a bite/sip so you could drink or mist from the reservoir without taking anything out.

I've not yet been able to find that so if it doesn't exist my next choice would be a backpack that does the above with a long enough hose that I could either keep it in the rack bag or take it apart and put part of it in there.

And my next choice after that would be a backpack with a standard length hose and I'll just live with a sweaty back as long as I have the misting function to keep cool.

Anyone seen (or used) anything like this? Would be grateful for any leads! Thanks!!
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Old 07-24-19, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jbsjbs View Post
I've been looking for options to keep cool and hydrate more frequently during hot weather rides. I'd prefer not to wear a backpack but I do have a large rack pack commuter bag that I could keep something in.

My perfect find would be a bottle (for a cage) or a bladder (for the rack bag) with a hose attachment that had some sort of a trigger sprayer misting device as well as a bite/sip so you could drink or mist from the reservoir without taking anything out.

I've not yet been able to find that so if it doesn't exist my next choice would be a backpack that does the above with a long enough hose that I could either keep it in the rack bag or take it apart and put part of it in there.

And my next choice after that would be a backpack with a standard length hose and I'll just live with a sweaty back as long as I have the misting function to keep cool.

Anyone seen (or used) anything like this? Would be grateful for any leads! Thanks!!
Putting the bladder on the bike means needing to pump the water up several feet. Probably take a couple of pumps each time and require more effort. (Long straws to waterbottles on the bike have the same issue.) My first thought would be a backpack bladder (ie CamelBak or the like) and a "Y" on the hose to the original nozzle and a water pistol. (Don't know where you would find a sawed-off water shotgun with the appropriate load! But carrying that to the extreme - you could have the "shotgun" mounted on the handlebars aimed at your face. With old-fashioned handlebar WB cages, the height issue is solved and execution (!) would be easy.)

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Old 07-24-19, 09:53 AM
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I've been looking for options to keep cool and hydrate more frequently during hot weather rides. I'd prefer not to wear a backpack but I do have a large rack pack commuter bag that I could keep something in.

My perfect find would be a bottle (for a cage) or a bladder (for the rack bag) with a hose attachment that had some sort of a trigger sprayer misting device as well as a bite/sip so you could drink or mist from the reservoir without taking anything out.

I've not yet been able to find that so if it doesn't exist my next choice would be a backpack that does the above with a long enough hose that I could either keep it in the rack bag or take it apart and put part of it in there.

And my next choice after that would be a backpack with a standard length hose and I'll just live with a sweaty back as long as I have the misting function to keep cool.

Anyone seen (or used) anything like this? Would be grateful for any leads! Thanks!!
Two large bottles in two bottle holders on the frame holds a lot. With practice it can be easy, possibly easier than using something to mist yourself with. I have never heard of a device that will mist you and let you drink through a hose. If needed you could stop once in a while to wet your face from a bottle.
I think if it would sell, by now one would be on the market already. I rode in 107 degrees a couple of days ago. As always I just hydrate properly and stop if needed.
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Old 07-24-19, 10:01 AM
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Platypus Hoser

https://www.platy.com/hydration-systems/hoser

They also sell fittings and tubes so that the tube length can be extended.

I've used such a system with the bladder in a frame bag. Clipping the tube securely onto the bike so that it doesn't fall off and drag can be a challenge.

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I've seen tri bike riders with some sort of handlebar-mounted water bottle with a long hose allowing a hands-free hydration method.
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Old 07-24-19, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by jbsjbs View Post
I've been looking for options to keep cool and hydrate more frequently during hot weather rides. I'd prefer not to wear a backpack but I do have a large rack pack commuter bag that I could keep something in.

My perfect find would be a bottle (for a cage) or a bladder (for the rack bag) with a hose attachment that had some sort of a trigger sprayer misting device as well as a bite/sip so you could drink or mist from the reservoir without taking anything out.

I've not yet been able to find that so if it doesn't exist my next choice would be a backpack that does the above with a long enough hose that I could either keep it in the rack bag or take it apart and put part of it in there.

And my next choice after that would be a backpack with a standard length hose and I'll just live with a sweaty back as long as I have the misting function to keep cool.

Anyone seen (or used) anything like this? Would be grateful for any leads! Thanks!!
Alternatively, use a hydration pack and pack it with ice. You can get most of a 7 lb bag of ice into a 100 oz bladder. The ice provides cooler water for longer than any bottle can...up to 6 hours vs around an hour or less... and the ice in the pack provides cooling as you ride, either due to the condensation dripping off it or just heat transfer. I notice a significant effect if I have to delay packing the pack with ice.
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You can find pretty much any sized bladder that comes with a drinking tube. Just buy one that will fit in your particular bag.

Never heard of one that will "mist" you though.
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Old 07-24-19, 10:38 AM
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When I crossed the country in '99 it was scorching and humid from Southern MN all the way through IN. At some point I bought a spray bottle with a mist setting on the nozzle. I was able to fit it in a jersey pocket. Came in handy. Others in my group liked to be sprayed.
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Old 07-24-19, 10:50 AM
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Thanks for all the ideas everyone. This is very useful.

The misting thing sounds ridiculous but what brought it to mind is my kids' summer camp recommends these misting water bottles for the kids (no AC). I tried theirs out on an extremely hot day and it was incredible. Even more so than just spraying water from the bottle, the evaporative cooling of the water mist was stunning. Among the (many!) things I've come across that take advantage of this effect is one at Amazon (sorry, newbie so no links) item B07FFCWGWC at Amazon which is designed for long hiking treks in hot weather and basically pumps a continuous fine mist in front of you. Ridiculous and overly elaborate yes but I can't say that dropping the temp of a hike or ride 30 degrees wouldn't be appealing.

In my current case it sounds like I might need to settle for a couple of partial solutions. I keep a chalk bag on my handlebars to drop my phone into so I'm going to experiment with a small spray bottle with some ice and water in it that I can keep in there (sans phone of course) for the misting portion of my quest and then I'll look for a rack pack bladder for the sipping part.

And of course if anyone has any other ideas I'm all ears. Thanks again everyone!
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Old 07-24-19, 10:58 AM
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Water in an un-insulated spray bottle is going to get warm pretty quickly, even with ice in it, though it's still better than nothing. Maybe freeze it over night before a ride. I didn't have that luxury riding across the country.
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Two water bottles in cages. One regular one for drinking, one with a spray top for spraying... ?
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Old 07-24-19, 11:16 AM
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Two water bottles in cages. One regular one for drinking, one with a spray top for spraying... ?
I have 2 cages in my triangle both with Camelbak Podium Chills which I love (though I read about the new Podium Chill Ice and am going to give that a while as well). I'd certainly give that a try but I haven't seen any bike-specific spray-top bottles that looked like they'd work well in a cage. The ones my kids took to camp are the right shape for example but the spray top makes them even longer than my 25 ounce Chills. Is there a spray top you've seen that fits well in a cage inside the triangle? I'm also marginally inclined to have something I can grab quicker (thus the spray bottle in my chalk bag idea).
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Old 07-24-19, 11:28 AM
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Water in an un-insulated spray bottle is going to get warm pretty quickly, even with ice in it, though it's still better than nothing. Maybe freeze it over night before a ride. I didn't have that luxury riding across the country.
My thought is to fill it halfway and freeze it then add water before the ride, then figure out what % frozen solid I need for a given length of ride. That said, the amazing thing about the mist cooling is it doesn't really depend on cold water. At any normal riding speed the effect of the wind and even a lukewarm watermist is remarkably cooling. Pouring water directly on you from the bottle depends a lot on the temp of the water in my experience but with a mist what's happening is you're creating a gigantic surface area from a tiny amount of water. This lets the water evaporate extremely quickly drawing heat out of the air and off of you. If you've ever been in one of those outdoor spaces that use misting cooling systems they can cool an area by 25 or 30 degress without anyone getting wet because the mist evaporates so quickly.
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