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Old 11-14-18, 10:04 PM
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Seat tube water cage only holds a short bottle

So I modified one to hold a tall bottle.
Drilled holes so it sets lower & at a slight angle
to the left.



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Old 11-14-18, 10:09 PM
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I just bought a side load cage
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Side load cages solve the problem or you can use Problem solvers bottle cage mount to mount it lower or go with Wolf Tooths B-Rad mounts and have two bottle cages on your downtube like I did on my road bike for a trip I do every year (and then just never took it off). It is excellent and I can use that other cage for smaller stuff or not use it and be fine. I would be bothered by a cage that sits crooked.
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Old 11-14-18, 11:02 PM
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Thanks
Gonna look at side load cages,
Always learning
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Side cage don’t seem to be any lower.
Not sure my bike’s mount would have room for the
tall (reg size) bottle.

Next time in the bike shop (with bike)
gonna measure one.
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Old 11-14-18, 11:45 PM
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Topeak Alt Position cage mounts are another option. They change the position by 32mm but aren't adjustable.

https://www.amazon.com/Topeak-Alt-Po.../dp/B079NF8BGP
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Old 11-15-18, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by veganbikes View Post
Side load cages solve the problem
I put a couple of the Lezyne side loading cages on my wife's bike and they work well. AMAZON LINK
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Old 11-15-18, 12:55 PM
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What's wrong with a few oz less in a regular length bottle?

you can use a longer, liter volume one on the downtube..

add more bottles behind the saddle if you ride in super hot weather..
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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
What's wrong with a few oz less in a regular length bottle?

you can use a longer, liter volume one on the downtube..

add more bottles behind the saddle if you ride in super hot weather..
I like to carry 2 bottles for longer rides. Sometimes the same size, sometimes different. But, as I empty the DT bottle, I generally swap positions. So, it is handy to have both bottles fitting into both cages.

Originally Posted by mtb_addict View Post
This is one of the down side of compact frame. Shifting the cage lower has another down side. Which is bottle will get dirty from the crap tossed up by the chain.
Yep. Less of an issue with horizontal Top Tubes. @mtb_addict? Many MTBs have frames squished together so much that there is no second cage, and perhaps not even room for the DT cage.

It is also a frame design issue. In many cases, the two cages meet at some point, and one can be lower than the other. In this case, design it so the Seat Tube cage mounts lower.
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Old 11-15-18, 01:28 PM
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4 bottles , same size, then ..

a little fabrication effort and you can mount the seat tube bottle lower..
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Old 11-15-18, 01:46 PM
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I bike in Texas and regularly with temps near 100 (sometimes over) so two 25oz insulated bottles is a must. I had this same problem when I built my Planet-X frame and got one of these to solve it:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071H4M93Y

Here is a sort of before and after (or actually after and before):

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Originally Posted by bogydave View Post
Thanks
Gonna look at side load cages,
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You drilled a carbon bike?
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You drilled a carbon bike?
that's what I first thought as i read the post, but the pictures clearly show the cages were drilled.
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Old 11-15-18, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Leebo View Post
You drilled a carbon bike?
NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

drilled the cage
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Old 11-15-18, 07:49 PM
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Yea
4 ounces not much, but have
been out in the desert when 4 more ounces
would’ve been awesome. One time is enough.

Body is learning to sweat, lots of water important
for me, 80 is Hot in Alaska.
I carry a small screw cap in Jersey pocket too.
Some to dump on my head, on hot days is not wasting it.

If I bring some home, I’m OK with that.
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Old 11-16-18, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by bogydave View Post
So I modified one to hold a tall bottle.
Drilled holes so it sets lower & at a slight angle
to the left.
Clever.
I commute, and usually drink at lights and stops where I put my left foot down, lean the bike to the left and grab my water with my right hand. If I were to do this mid, I'd tilt the bottle cage so it could be pulled out on my right side.
Again...very clever!
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Old 11-16-18, 12:26 PM
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Pffft. Just start riding a 60cm frame (or larger). Problem solved. You're welcome.


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Pffft. Just start riding a 60cm frame (or larger). Problem solved. You're welcome.


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A reason to buy a new bike “need 2 full size water bottles”

Fitting

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Originally Posted by Mitkraft View Post
I bike in Texas and regularly with temps near 100 (sometimes over) so two 25oz insulated bottles is a must. I had this same problem when I built my Planet-X frame and got one of these to solve it:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071H4M93Y
thanks,
that’ll work
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Old 11-19-18, 06:46 PM
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You could always use one of these King Cage Top Cap Mount that attach to any stem with a top cap. Keeps your water bottle handy and clear of road grime. Great place for your bear spray too, if you mountain bike in bear country. .
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