GlennR

Sorry guys, i've been too busy putting miles on my bike (not on my car).

This topic has turned into a sword fight.

Gerryattrick

When Porsche started making cars with four doors or 4wd they became marketing products to fill a gap, rather than great sports cars imo. Sports cars should be cramped and impractical or they are just cars.

A bit like road bikes.

mpath

The 959 was built with the then-revolutionary AWD system not to fill a market gap, but simply to go as fast as possible in the Group B class - which never materialized. Having had a mid-80's Turbo, drop throttle oversteer is not for the faint of heart. The practical solution was/is to simply move the engine forward a tad - but that would have lost the essence of what a 911 was*. Instead, Porsche chose a far more complex engineering route with AWD.

*Hence the creation of the Cayman/Boxster/718 models.

cycloaptrgangr

Uh oh. Somebody desperately needs some education.

I would suggest driving a 911 Turbo (993,996,997, or 991) and then getting back to us about how those AWD/4WD buckets of fun aren't "great sports cars."

Gerryattrick

I must confess that my typing is faster than my brain. I should have stuck to the 4 door statement.

jdcowboy

I've had fast cars, fast motorcycles, fast bikes and fast blonds. The cars, motorcycles and bikes don't care which one you ride as long as you ride one of them. They were all fun--but I'll still take the blond!

JGM411

OP, this is something i am dealing with,


I have debated buying a Porsche Cayenne for my wife, (I drive a lowly Dodge Caravan), and I love riding my bike.

Things changed as a pre-owned 015 Ininfiti qx60 popped up for a private sale. I bought that.

someday, I will own a Porsche ...with a bike rack.

PaulH

That's what bicycles are for. Cars are for weekend recreation, so they need not be "practical."

f4rrest

Cars?

Meh.

jdcowboy

Turn the key?? You have a car that you actually insert a key and turn it to start the car?? Haven't had one of those this century. They still make those?

mr_bill

My Bells:



The left one is not for a Porsche, but for a 2006 Honda Civic Si. Hey, it's got a whole 200 cc larger engine than a regular civic.

-mr. bill

FlamsteadHill

Yeah, for the peons.

Oh, and police cruisers.

Garfield Cat

Did you get a good look at the woman?

DaveQ24

Yup, my 2014 Chevy Equinox has key start. It's the LTZ with sunroof, leather seats etc, sticker was about $37K but I paid about $6K less between incentives, GM emoloyee discount pricing, and a lot of accumulated points on my GM card. Just not worthy of keyless start in GM's eyes apparently. In that model year I would probably have had to moved up to Buick or Cadillac - maybe some of the highest sticker Chevy SUVs or really trimmed out pickups had it.

All of that tech and bells and whistles filter down eventually - or maybe sooner? A couple of months ago I was waiting in a long line to get my car back from service, so I wandered out the door and looked at the low-end compact Chevys - some had better feature than my car, including 5 years of Onstar and 3 years roadside assistance - mine had 2 years Onstar and no roadside assistance. Stickers were like $15-$16 thousand. Surprised me, but I guess that is how they compete.

My boss has the 2014 Cadillac STS (SRS?,SES? -- some such letters) that is the same vehicle/platform - for an extra $14K he got a fancier dash -fake wood grain plastic, a slightly redesigned rear lift-gate roof profile, and keyless start. And a Cadillac emblem instead of Chevrolet.

Of course, extended warranty, tax, various fees, paint and fabric protection brought the total on my Chevy back up to about the sticker price.

roccobike

Amen to that brother. We have 2 Lexus RX350s to do the heavy hauling. However, occasionally, I like to put the bike in the Vette and show up in the C7.

FlamsteadHill

Wahoo! Thanks for letting us all know you can surely Afford it.

Do you show up at your LBS with a "Please raise your prices 20%, I can afford it" hat on?

cycloaptrgangr

On what planet is a RX350 suitable for heavy hauling?

Slick Madone

Sorry but you sound like you need help. What do you care?

Slightspeed

I've had two rides where I passed powered bikes, one e-bike with 4 inch tires on the sidewalk (!) and one smoky Whizzer type, going up a slight hill. I don't know if those guys were racing, but I was! To their credit, they didn't speed up and try to re-pass, but it did feel good to strike a blow for human power.

Retro Grouch 

I have a Porsche that is a bicycle. Mine has been modded pretty extensively though so I pretty much offend everybody who sees at it except for my daughter-in-law. She likes it and says it's the best bicycle that she has ever ridden.

fietsbob

Saturday a dozen Porsche in a line, drove thru town , together on a club outing..

Rollfast

Mine just took his older son in to have his tonsils removed and he's still busy as all get out, and families are not cheap, that person has mistaken him for J. P. Morgan.

GlennR

During my ride today, I passed a 356C Cabrio and a 912.

I waved to both and got a wave back.

They can coexist.

Machoman121

i think i'll rather be in the porsher and with female company.

Reality check = I don't have female company that's why i'm on a bicycle.

BlazingPedals

My bike is the bicycle version of a Porsche; but it doesn't have room for an expensive babe to sit next to me on it.