Anyone else like subdivision riding?
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Last couple of times I've almost got hit were cars pulling out of their driveway in residential subdivisions (despite my very bright strobe lights). Folks don't expect a bike moving at speed when they're leaving home. So no, I'd rather stay on the roads outside of a subdivision.
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I like the fact that the speed difference between me and the cars and trucks is smaller on neighborhood roads. The arteries surrounding these neighborhoods all start at 45mph where the subdivision main roads are 30mph and others are 25 mph. I'm flyin' at 25mph.
And averaging 17-18mph. Also, the MUP connects several different subdivisions - gives me variety.
And averaging 17-18mph. Also, the MUP connects several different subdivisions - gives me variety.
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I use them for hill training...especially during times of the year when it's too dark, or icy, to comfortably ride hills out on the rural roads.
In fact, I just rode one of the "easy" subdivision hills in the dark last night - the max grade on that one is only ~13%. There's a few very nasty ones where there are excursions to ~20%.
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For many years I rode mainly in my subdivision, because riding the roads outside my subdivision was suicidal, they were busy, too narrow, and no shoulders. I was never one of those guys who needed 30 miles to get a decent ride anyway because ball sports were my main physical activity, the cycling just kept me in tone. When I wanted to do 30 miles I'd just drive to some farmland nearby.
I may have even invented "hill repeats" back in the day as I frequently did that in the subdivision to get my HR up.
I may have even invented "hill repeats" back in the day as I frequently did that in the subdivision to get my HR up.
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I'd rather ride the senior center parking lot on weekends.
edit: Seriously, it’s closed on w/ends - big parking area, paved access around the building, no dogs, no kids, no cars. Even a little ‘gravel’ trail near the building. Just as uninteresting as a subdivision without the hazards.p
edit: Seriously, it’s closed on w/ends - big parking area, paved access around the building, no dogs, no kids, no cars. Even a little ‘gravel’ trail near the building. Just as uninteresting as a subdivision without the hazards.p
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I don't particularly like them on my bike. But when I was a serious runner (2500 miles per year) I loved to do 'turn runs' through subdivisions. I would take off to somewhere and at some point I would just "always take a right turn any time it was available". And then just see where I would end up. Any time that I ended up at the same point going in the same direction as before (less often than you would expect) I would add a single left turn, and then go on and just take right turns.
You never knew for sure where you were going and that made it interesting.
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You never knew for sure where you were going and that made it interesting.
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Quite true. About 2 weeks ago someone backed out right in front of me. I had to stop. I don't know how they could not have seen my hi-vis shirt unless they simply weren't looking. That kind of thing really pisses me off. What if I had been some small kid? I shouted a few choice words and flipped them off.
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Negative. Too many kids/balls/cars/dogs/cars/etc. running out. Plus I can't get up any good speed and it just annoys me.
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It's about a 50/50 split.
If we go down, we have to start climbing again in about half a km.
If we go up, we reach the top of the hill in about half a km and can descend down to a short flat bit along a beach.
If we go down, we have to start climbing again in about half a km.
If we go up, we reach the top of the hill in about half a km and can descend down to a short flat bit along a beach.
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I've done it. It's not my favourite kind of riding. You really have to watch out for drivers coming out of driveways, as someone already mentioned. I commute through some subdivision roads early in the morning, and the half awake drivers are so oblivious as they think no one could possibly out this early in the morning that they could back out without looking. But on the other hand, the speed limited is no more than 50 kph, the street is extra wide so drivers give you lots of passing space, and there is absolutely no congestion.
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I've come to enjoy it. Fifteen years ago, before back problems forced me off the bike, I rode mostly on the highways (well, on the white lines of the highways). This year when I was finally able to get back on the bike, I took mostly short rides on the streets of the suburb where I live. It's definitely a more laid-back form of riding, with fewer aggressive motorists and fewer aggressive dogs. It's hilly enough to throw in some climbs, but flat enough that my back doesn't get too riled up. I can get in a 15-miler by doing a couple of circuits, and I'm never farther than 3 miles from home.
That said, as my fitness and endurance increase, I plan to hit the road again. West Virginia's backroads can be a lot of fun.
That said, as my fitness and endurance increase, I plan to hit the road again. West Virginia's backroads can be a lot of fun.
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I started riding my neighborhood this summer, just to avoid the heat. I am used to rural roads in horse country, but am rather enjoying the 5am rides through our large, 55+ gated community. The smooth, wide streets are well lit and I am able to ride at a steady 15-17 mph, only slowing down slightly for stop signs. Cars and pedestrians are rare that early (didn't see one at all yesterday), so can safely, and quickly, get 10-15 miles in before sunrise. It's also a bit exciting when I wake up birds or see the occasional bear rummaging through trash cans. Luckily, bears here don't like flashing headlights..
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We have good subs to ride. Some in town, some out of town. Many of the bike designated roads travel through some nice curvy, not too hilly, no traffic, great scenery, subdivisions. I like it.
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Quite true. About 2 weeks ago someone backed out right in front of me. I had to stop. I don't know how they could not have seen my hi-vis shirt unless they simply weren't looking. That kind of thing really pisses me off. What if I had been some small kid? I shouted a few choice words and flipped them off.
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Don't know if you've been to the outer banks of NC, but I was there this past weekend. Pancake flat and the only road to ride on goes north/south with minimal stoplights, so if you go out for a steady ride your average speed and max speed are pretty much within 3-4 MPH of each other.
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Don't know if you've been to the outer banks of NC, but I was there this past weekend. Pancake flat and the only road to ride on goes north/south with minimal stoplights, so if you go out for a steady ride your average speed and max speed are pretty much within 3-4 MPH of each other.
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