Should I buy this Fuji S12?
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Should I buy this Fuji S12?
I really know very little about bikes but am looking to buy my first one since I was a kid and could use a little help from some pros about a potential purchase.
Long story short: I'm 6'7" so I assume that most bikes I find will be too small. I'm looking for a used road bike that won't be too pricey (i.e. under $200) for my first bike.
So why am I posting in this forum? Because I'm being offered a Fuji S12 for $150 and honestly have no idea if it's worth it, though I am starting to suspect that it's a pretty high asking price. (Seriously, I don't know much about this, any of you here could swindle me easily. )
I'll cross my fingers hoping for some helpful feedback. Unfortunately I haven't lurked here enough to know what an ignorant new poster should expect.
Long story short: I'm 6'7" so I assume that most bikes I find will be too small. I'm looking for a used road bike that won't be too pricey (i.e. under $200) for my first bike.
So why am I posting in this forum? Because I'm being offered a Fuji S12 for $150 and honestly have no idea if it's worth it, though I am starting to suspect that it's a pretty high asking price. (Seriously, I don't know much about this, any of you here could swindle me easily. )
I'll cross my fingers hoping for some helpful feedback. Unfortunately I haven't lurked here enough to know what an ignorant new poster should expect.
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Looks much too small for you. At 6'3" I prefer a 63cm frame, that looks like a 58cm. I would hold out for something larger.
Could be the angle but the fork looks bent forward too.
Could be the angle but the fork looks bent forward too.
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An S12 was my first real road bike back in 1976. It's a HEAVY bike. While not as porky as a Varsity, it's still no light weight.
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Don't confuse an S12-S with a Sports 12 ... This is a Sports 12, not at all the same animal.
The first reference I can see at ClassicFuji.com is 1980 for this model .. but the components on the photo provided by the OP suggest a mid '70's model Sports 10. The style of the Dia Compe top tube cable clips suggest a much earlier bike as well.
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The first reference I can see at ClassicFuji.com is 1980 for this model .. but the components on the photo provided by the OP suggest a mid '70's model Sports 10. The style of the Dia Compe top tube cable clips suggest a much earlier bike as well.
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Waaaay to small of a bike for someone 6'7".
You won't be comfortable on that bike. Please keep looking.
OP, where are you from?
You won't be comfortable on that bike. Please keep looking.
OP, where are you from?
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I suppose it all depends on how aggresive a riding posture you prefer, but I can't fathom one in which a 58-59cm frame will accomodate a person 6'7". I'm 6'0" and ride 63cm (25") frames. That said I have long legs and prefer a slightly more relaxed posture for long distances. Schwinn, Raleigh, Nishiki and others produced many of their models in 27" (68cm) sizes. I think you should be looking for one of those. Searching for "tall" or "large" frame bikes should yield some results. In your case you're going to have to be patient. Good luck!
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+10 Way too small.
+10 Poor condition.
+10 Not an S12S unfortunately. Sport 12 is bottom of the barrel. S12S is a pretty decent bike.
Its a big NO on this deal.
You need to look for a XXL frame, something like a 66cm to 68 cm frame size. They are rare, but they are out there. And the good news is that there are not many buyers for bikes that large, so they usually sell at a discount.
+10 Poor condition.
+10 Not an S12S unfortunately. Sport 12 is bottom of the barrel. S12S is a pretty decent bike.
Its a big NO on this deal.
You need to look for a XXL frame, something like a 66cm to 68 cm frame size. They are rare, but they are out there. And the good news is that there are not many buyers for bikes that large, so they usually sell at a discount.
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Thanks everyone. I really do appreciate the feedback. I've been wanting to finally get a bike for the last year or two (granted, my interest goes up and down in waves) but never feel like I know enough to make a smart decision and don't want to pay full price for a brand new one for my first one.
@Scott - Good to know. I thought I had picked up on bike lingo of shortening calling a Sports 12 to S12. Whoops!!
@cb400 - I live in Minneapolis, MN. Called a local refurbished bike shop that a friend recommended to see if they had anything my size, sadly they didn't.
@Scott - Good to know. I thought I had picked up on bike lingo of shortening calling a Sports 12 to S12. Whoops!!
@cb400 - I live in Minneapolis, MN. Called a local refurbished bike shop that a friend recommended to see if they had anything my size, sadly they didn't.
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Here are a few finds on the Minneapolis CL.
https://re-cycle.com/bike.aspx?pic=3580 This is the nicest tall bike I found. Overpriced for its condition. Someone tell me why they put 170mm cranks on bikes this tall?
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hn...807556598.html As usual, the pics suck. Not a high-end bike and not worth the asking price, but chances are anyone selling a frame this big has had it a while and just wants it gone. Keep that in mind when making an offer on a bike.
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hn...800567483.html Probably a touch shorter than ideal. Bar-end shifters are nice.
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hn...791716376.html Way overpriced.
https://re-cycle.com/bike.aspx?pic=3580 This is the nicest tall bike I found. Overpriced for its condition. Someone tell me why they put 170mm cranks on bikes this tall?
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hn...807556598.html As usual, the pics suck. Not a high-end bike and not worth the asking price, but chances are anyone selling a frame this big has had it a while and just wants it gone. Keep that in mind when making an offer on a bike.
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hn...800567483.html Probably a touch shorter than ideal. Bar-end shifters are nice.
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hn...791716376.html Way overpriced.
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Oh, you're in C&V member Khatful's area. Don't worry, he only likes pink and turquoise Fujis ..
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Oh good to hear. I'd hate to have him buying up everything that was half way decent out from under me. But I'm just fine with letting the pink and turquoise Fujis pass.
@Lloyd - I emailed the second link you posted. That's actually my neighborhood in Minneapolis so it shouldn't be too hard to get over there for a test ride at least. Hope they'll come down in price a bit.
@Lloyd - I emailed the second link you posted. That's actually my neighborhood in Minneapolis so it shouldn't be too hard to get over there for a test ride at least. Hope they'll come down in price a bit.
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So I'm actually going to take a look at this one today:
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hn...807556598.html
Any pro tips on what a newcomer like me should know/look for on this bike?
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hn...807556598.html
Any pro tips on what a newcomer like me should know/look for on this bike?
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Dang, if I weren't flying out on business in 3 hours or so I'd offer to take a look with you.
Size looks good for you.
Appears to be an 82 Supreme: https://classicfuji.com/Supreme_1982_Page.htm
If the little pics are any indication it looks to be in really nice shape.
Make sure everything that turns turns freely without any "catches" or 'clicks" or anything that feels out of the ordinary.
You'll probably want to replace cables and housings, perhaps tires and tubes, maybe some fresh bar tape.
It's not a lightweight, but not a boat anchor either.
Tell you what, if you do get it PM me...I'd be happy to help you assess it. I won't be back in town until Saturday again but after the 4th I'd be happy to lend a hand.
Also, try to work on the price too Unfortunately MSP market prices are pretty high compared to other parts of the country....such is life when you live in the #1 bicycle friendly city in the US huh?
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Size looks good for you.
Appears to be an 82 Supreme: https://classicfuji.com/Supreme_1982_Page.htm
If the little pics are any indication it looks to be in really nice shape.
Make sure everything that turns turns freely without any "catches" or 'clicks" or anything that feels out of the ordinary.
You'll probably want to replace cables and housings, perhaps tires and tubes, maybe some fresh bar tape.
It's not a lightweight, but not a boat anchor either.
Tell you what, if you do get it PM me...I'd be happy to help you assess it. I won't be back in town until Saturday again but after the 4th I'd be happy to lend a hand.
Also, try to work on the price too Unfortunately MSP market prices are pretty high compared to other parts of the country....such is life when you live in the #1 bicycle friendly city in the US huh?
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That is a big 'un isn't it?
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Good thing you stopped by here first, that first bike you posted is way too small. At 6'6" I know what you are going through to find a bike that fits. You will want to go with a 66cm to 70cm frame, don't fool yourself and think 63cm is close. You will feel cramped on it.
Out of the bikes posted by the Colonel, you made the right choice to look at the Fuji first. The others are overpriced, but I don't know the Minneapolis market.
Some of the bikes I always look that come in a large frae and are a good value for around $200 are;
Bridgestone 400 - I have 2 in 69cm's. They are relatively light for their size. The top tubes are longer than most larger bikes at 63cm.
Fuji Royale - A step up from the Supreme in frame material and componets.
Bianchi's - Hard to find, but they did make some 70cm frames.
Schwinn LeTour- Models vary aloy by years, but the late 80's were True Temper 4130 Cro-mo frames. They came in 27".
Panasonic 200 or 300.
Basically many of the Japanese brands made some of their mid level bikes in larger frames. Try to get something Cro-mo from Univega, Fuji, Bridgestone or Fuji. There are some Reynolds 531 frames in larger sizes but they are very rare.
The best way to search CL is use "Very Large "or "Very Tall" or try "69cm". You may find some custom builders that made large frames that way.
Out of the bikes posted by the Colonel, you made the right choice to look at the Fuji first. The others are overpriced, but I don't know the Minneapolis market.
Some of the bikes I always look that come in a large frae and are a good value for around $200 are;
Bridgestone 400 - I have 2 in 69cm's. They are relatively light for their size. The top tubes are longer than most larger bikes at 63cm.
Fuji Royale - A step up from the Supreme in frame material and componets.
Bianchi's - Hard to find, but they did make some 70cm frames.
Schwinn LeTour- Models vary aloy by years, but the late 80's were True Temper 4130 Cro-mo frames. They came in 27".
Panasonic 200 or 300.
Basically many of the Japanese brands made some of their mid level bikes in larger frames. Try to get something Cro-mo from Univega, Fuji, Bridgestone or Fuji. There are some Reynolds 531 frames in larger sizes but they are very rare.
The best way to search CL is use "Very Large "or "Very Tall" or try "69cm". You may find some custom builders that made large frames that way.
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That Fuji looks nice, but the prices in Minneapolis market lately are starting to get out of control.
I volunteer at Mr. Michael Recycles Bicycles. I was planning on going in tonight; I'll ask if he has any very tall frames he'd be willing to sell if you don't get the Fuji. He did have some 25" frames, but there may be a 27" floating around.
I volunteer at Mr. Michael Recycles Bicycles. I was planning on going in tonight; I'll ask if he has any very tall frames he'd be willing to sell if you don't get the Fuji. He did have some 25" frames, but there may be a 27" floating around.
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Shame you're not in Nashville...price is even right:
https://nashville.craigslist.org/bik/1789965005.html
https://nashville.craigslist.org/bik/1789965005.html
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Just got back home, tried the bike out earlier this afternoon. The chain was coming off the gear at first, but the guy selling it seems to know a thing or two about bikes (i.e. more than me) and with a quick adjustment with the screwdriver had it tighter on there and working correctly.
Took it for a short ride around the neighborhood. (Side note: I love living in NE Minneapolis) It felt big enough, which was good. It was shifting and breaking decently too. I'm obviously no expert but I'd suspect both are things that could be worked on in the future to make tighter and more responsive, but I didn't have any issues either.
It has been years since I've ridden a bike, so half the time I was trying to get comfortable again. Can't say I enjoyed the comfort of the seat a whole lot, but figure I'd either get used to it or get a better one.
The couple who I met is selling it for their brother and said they think he'd be willing to negotiate some with the price. Oh, and you're right about the year, said it was an 82 or 83 (I forget which now) with its original parts. I told them I was going to get back to them after doing some more research on the bike and thinking it over for a few days.
So you know what the saddest part of this whole thing was? If any of you would have seen me, a 30 year old 6'7" man who hasn't ridden a bike regularly since the mid 90s, trying to get comfortable on one again. I bet I looked awkward as all get out...
Took it for a short ride around the neighborhood. (Side note: I love living in NE Minneapolis) It felt big enough, which was good. It was shifting and breaking decently too. I'm obviously no expert but I'd suspect both are things that could be worked on in the future to make tighter and more responsive, but I didn't have any issues either.
It has been years since I've ridden a bike, so half the time I was trying to get comfortable again. Can't say I enjoyed the comfort of the seat a whole lot, but figure I'd either get used to it or get a better one.
The couple who I met is selling it for their brother and said they think he'd be willing to negotiate some with the price. Oh, and you're right about the year, said it was an 82 or 83 (I forget which now) with its original parts. I told them I was going to get back to them after doing some more research on the bike and thinking it over for a few days.
So you know what the saddest part of this whole thing was? If any of you would have seen me, a 30 year old 6'7" man who hasn't ridden a bike regularly since the mid 90s, trying to get comfortable on one again. I bet I looked awkward as all get out...
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Yea, but I bet it felt pretty good didn't it?
I've been there, I know.
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For some uknown reason, I seem to find a lot of Panasonics in sizes that are nearly appropriate for a guy your size, and not so much for a guy like me (5'8-1/2"). I would keep that in my quiver of search terms for bicycles in your size range.
Does your hair graze most door frames? They tend to be 6'-8" or 7'-0", and I could never comprehend why...
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That Fuji looks nice, but the prices in Minneapolis market lately are starting to get out of control.
I volunteer at Mr. Michael Recycles Bicycles. I was planning on going in tonight; I'll ask if he has any very tall frames he'd be willing to sell if you don't get the Fuji. He did have some 25" frames, but there may be a 27" floating around.
I volunteer at Mr. Michael Recycles Bicycles. I was planning on going in tonight; I'll ask if he has any very tall frames he'd be willing to sell if you don't get the Fuji. He did have some 25" frames, but there may be a 27" floating around.
It felt big enough, which was good. It was shifting and breaking decently too. I'm obviously no expert but I'd suspect both are things that could be worked on in the future to make tighter and more responsive, but I didn't have any issues either.
It has been years since I've ridden a bike, so half the time I was trying to get comfortable again. Can't say I enjoyed the comfort of the seat a whole lot, but figure I'd either get used to it or get a better one.
The couple who I met is selling it for their brother and said they think he'd be willing to negotiate some with the price. Oh, and you're right about the year, said it was an 82 or 83 (I forget which now) with its original parts. I told them I was going to get back to them after doing some more research on the bike and thinking it over for a few days.
So you know what the saddest part of this whole thing was? If any of you would have seen me, a 30 year old 6'7" man who hasn't ridden a bike regularly since the mid 90s, trying to get comfortable on one again. I bet I looked awkward as all get out...
It has been years since I've ridden a bike, so half the time I was trying to get comfortable again. Can't say I enjoyed the comfort of the seat a whole lot, but figure I'd either get used to it or get a better one.
The couple who I met is selling it for their brother and said they think he'd be willing to negotiate some with the price. Oh, and you're right about the year, said it was an 82 or 83 (I forget which now) with its original parts. I told them I was going to get back to them after doing some more research on the bike and thinking it over for a few days.
So you know what the saddest part of this whole thing was? If any of you would have seen me, a 30 year old 6'7" man who hasn't ridden a bike regularly since the mid 90s, trying to get comfortable on one again. I bet I looked awkward as all get out...