1simplexnut

Has me intrigued ! . Is it or isnt it a Peugeot ?

What say you learned bods ?

1simplexnut

has huret rear drop outs , No serial number on bb . No tubing decal to be seen . Chrome head tube !

seamuis

ryansu

Maybe a fancy Continental market Pug

juvela

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she is certainly sending some mixed signals...

Balilla Corsa 61 brakeset

Arius saddle from Spain

Spanish gear ensemble

Transfers noticeably later than most of the fittings

shall look forward to reading what the lion rampant experts have to pronounce...

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verktyg 

It's a frankenbike so don't try to figure out what it is or isn't based on any of the components. Are you sure that it has Huret dropouts? I don't recall ever seeing a modern Peugeot with Huret dropouts.

Peugeot and Simplex were joined at the hip. In fact Peugeot was responsible for Lucien Juy's misadventure into the Delrin plastic derailleur venture that eventually brought down the French bicycle manufacturing world.

I've seen a few pictures of premium Peugeot frames with chrome forks and rear stays before. They came out of Peugeot's Prestige Custom Shop - their equivalent to Raleigh's SBDU and Bianchi's Corsa Reparto operations that built team bikes. Looks like late 70's, early 80's work on the frame but the decals are mid 80's

Some one could have special ordered a frame such as that???? But why? Huret Jubilee derailleurs where available to fit Campy standard style dropouts so that's no reason for Huret dropouts.

Close ups of the dropouts, seat stay tops and head tube would help.

One other possibility, there were a lot of "constructeurs", custom builders throughout France. It looks like the light blue metallic that Peugeot used but maybe someone put on later decals?

verktyg

thumpism 

Maybe an '80s Raleigh USA (chrome head tube, fork and stays) repainted and disguised as a Peugeot? Don't know why someone would do this but bike people are crazy, as we all know.

1simplexnut

hi Chas ,

more pics

verktyg 

I think that we can safely rule out that it's a Peugeot frame for lots of reasons.

Here's a link to a Peugeot Pro-10 built at their Prestige Shop. Notice the difference in workmanship:

ipernity: 1982 Peugeot Pro-10 - by Peter Kohler

Educated guess: 1970's Motoconfort frame with a Gitane Tour de France fork! The giveaway is if there is a Flying "W" shaped shift lever stop brazed on top of the down tube.




Motoconfort was one of Motobecane's secondary marques that they sold in certain markets like the UK, Europe and Canada? alongside the parent brand. They produced similar models, for example the Grand Jubile had special made Nervex lugs while the equivalent Motoconfort Super Champion came with long point Prugnat "S" lugs.

1970's Motobecane Grand Jubile



1970's Motoconfort Super Champion (Note: some less experienced person tried to mount a Campy headset on this frame. The top lock nut is only holding by a few threads)



Motoconfort Super Champion - the Grand Jubile equivalent. Notice semi wrap over the seat stay cap treatment that was used on most of the mid range to top of the line Motobecanes up through about 1977. Also the Huret dropouts.





Like the Grand Jubile, both frames were only 3 main tubes Reynolds 531.

The chrome plating is a red herring just like the frankencomponents. It was probably done when the bike was repainted? Also the pre-plating polishing seems to have removed a lot of the sharp edged details.

Motobecane used chevron topped Vagner fork crowns on most of their mid to better quality bikes until the late 70's.



It looks like a 1972-76 Gitane fork with a Nervex DuBois fork crown or maybe a Tange replacement fork.



Why an ersatz Peugeot? Who knows.

In the mid 70's the Peugeot-Raleigh dealer about 3 blocks from our shop took a cheap gas pipe department store bike, rattle can sprayed the frame white and put PX-10 decals on it along with a "GUARANTEED NOT BUILT WITH REYNOLDS 531" sticker. They used it as a shop bike to make pizza runs!



Course, there's always the possibility that some Ocker up in OZ built the frame!

I have a 1974 Gitane Tour de France with a French made frame than came from "down under" ('stralia). It has metric tubes but the threads British !

verktyg

jj1091

I think you're dealing with a 1981 or 1982 Peugeot Pro-10 or Prestige Pro-10 model. They could be ordered custom, hand-built, with a variety of choices as to frameset material, components, etc.

In the first example, a 1981 Pro-10, Germany catalog, shows the Prestige Pro-10 with the chrome fork and stays as in the OP's example.

In the second example, a 1982 Prestige Pro-10, UK catalog (made in the Valentigney special team workshop) shows that "You can choose from a list of highest-quality European components and from Reynolds 753, 531 SL, or 531 double-butted tubing. Size and colour are to your choice." Since you could choose frame material, componentry, and color, I don't see any reason why you couldn't have ordered one with Huret dropouts and a chrome head tube. Note that this one shows the Stronglight crankset shown in the OP's example.

Or, maybe not
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T-Mar

While can't identify the bicycle, I will say that it is almost certainly a re-paint and re-decal. The prime clue is the Huret dropout style, which is pre-1978. The style produced from 1978 onward had an integrated cable stop. It doesn't make sense being a 1980s custom frame from Peugeot's Prestige frame shop. Why would anybody order a custom frame without any of the features that were popular at time (i.e brazed-on shift lever bosses, brazed-on bottle bosses, brazed-on top tube tunnels, bridges and crowns to accommodate recessed brake fittings, etc.)? My overall impression is a mid-1970s, French, mid-range model. Has the OP verified the thread standard, seat tube outer diameter, seat post diameter?

gbi

I like Dr. Frankenstein's choice and placement of blue and chrome. The head tube reminds me of some early Gitanes with the foil covered head tube.