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Old 09-13-19, 04:49 PM
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Centurion frame, tubing?

Posted on craigslist in Dayton, OH


Centurion single speed


Likely original
I believe it's a conversion, but I wouldn't be surprised if I'm wrong. Listed for $250, possibly because of the brand.

What model is/was this, is it using PG Cr-Mo?

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Head badge points towards mid 70's. Chrome socks point towards Super LeMans. If so, those were Hi Ten steel.

Here's a link to 1978 catalog. https://vintage-centurion.com/literat...on_Catalog.pdf
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Originally Posted by cb400bill
Head badge points towards mid 70's. Chrome socks point towards Super LeMans. If so, those were Hi Ten steel.

Here's a link to 1978 catalog. https://vintage-centurion.com/literat...on_Catalog.pdf
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Originally Posted by Unca_Sam
Posted on craigslist in Dayton, OH


Centurion single


Likely original
I believe it's a conversion, but I wouldn't be surprised if I'm wrong. Listed for $250, possibly because of the brand.

What model is/was this, is it using PG Cr-Mo?
yes it certainly looks like it used to be “10 Speed” there is a rear derailleur hanger on the horizontal dropouts and the ‘mechanic’ doing the conversion simple removed one chainring rather than using a single speed or Pista crankset.
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$250 is total, complete dreamland, and yes, it is obviously a conversion with a rear derailleur hanger, forward angled rear drop outs, cable stops, etc. Might be a Super Elite, regardless, price is ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by wrk101
$250 is total, complete dreamland, and yes, it is obviously a conversion with a rear derailleur hanger, forward angled rear drop outs, cable stops, etc. Might be a Super Elite, regardless, price is ridiculous.
They probably need to recover the flip/flop hub/ wheel cost. Even if they kept the components, 250 would be high
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Originally Posted by wrk101
$250 is total, complete dreamland, and yes, it is obviously a conversion with a rear derailleur hanger, forward angled rear drop outs, cable stops, etc. Might be a Super Elite, regardless, price is ridiculous.
+1 I would agree the price is high. Also as presented with no pedals and effectively no brakes is bascically not ridiable so in most markets that's a 50 percent discount in my opinion. I just don't get why people feel they must take the brakes off a SS/FG conversion that is going to be used as a street bike for casual riding.
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@zukahn1

It does have a front brake, as is good. I missed the missing pedals

All in all, probably a fitting frame for the conversion, being a low end PG tubing. It doesn't look bad. It's just not what will scratch my itch.
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This shouldn't be PG tubing. If it actually is a Super Le Mans then it's double butted hi-tensile steel. However as @wrk101 states, this may be an early Elite variant, as the Super Le Mans from this era typically are seen with pencil stay caps and a different seat lug.
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I haven’t seen too many Centurion head badges like that one. I’m thinking this must be one of the original models from sometime in the early 70’s. It’s definitely a touring style frame with rack and fender eyelets. Probably has a Tange 5 frame and weighs over 28lbs.
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That is the original Centurion style head badge. Used from 1971-78.

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The head badge is a 73-75 one of the best looking head badges of all time.
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I'd weigh it with a decent luggage scale. If it's down around 23 pounds or so then, maybe worth $225. If it's closer to 30 pounds then, maybe $100.
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Does have the upmarket dropouts
frame geometry is better than the lower tier bikes
chrome rear stays
replaced wheels ( what diameter?)
the cranks are not the swaged maxi cranks
maybe Mighty level.
repainted obviously
decent build
tubing probably of some butted type
looks to me what was called a 23" frame way back center to top of seat tube.
i would be a bit more charitable on the price but I think $275 is about $100 too much.
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Originally Posted by cb400bill
Head badge points towards mid 70's. Chrome socks point towards Super LeMans. If so, those were Hi Ten steel.

Here's a link to 1978 catalog. https://vintage-centurion.com/literat...on_Catalog.pdf
The lugs on the head tube are not common to the Super LeMans model. This may be a Super Elite model.
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What makes model designation difficult is a lot of the early 70's Centurions I have seen with good original paint and decals did not have a model name in the artwork decals just the Centurion badge and Centurion on the seat tube and the tubing decals were somewhat vague.
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