Ketogenic "Keto" Diet?
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Weight alone is a "dumb" measurement since it doesn't tell you what type of weight you're measuring. Could be fat? Could be muscle? Could be water? You need weight and something else.
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When you're 5'6" and over 200 lbs weight is a factor that has merit. While that may not be true for everyone, for me weight is very important. Even shredded up and muscular I should only be about 180lbs, that's not me.
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248.6
It's just a number (well 4 of them) and it doesn't tell the entire story for sure. But I can't remember the last time my weight was under 250, and this is the second week in a row that I am. I hovered at 252 for a long time, but I've been riding a lot and could tell I was building muscle in my legs and loosing fat around my middle so the scale not moving was only a small irritation.
Another thing that occurred to me last night while doing intervals was the change in fuel for my body. When I first went low carb, I still had endurance, but I had no reserve for short bursts, any incline during a ride resulted in screaming legs, being spit out the back of the group, or both. I haven't had that in a long time, I'm not sure which is the bigger factor-becoming fat adapted or weekly intervals building more muscle-but I'm enjoying the benefits.
It's just a number (well 4 of them) and it doesn't tell the entire story for sure. But I can't remember the last time my weight was under 250, and this is the second week in a row that I am. I hovered at 252 for a long time, but I've been riding a lot and could tell I was building muscle in my legs and loosing fat around my middle so the scale not moving was only a small irritation.
Another thing that occurred to me last night while doing intervals was the change in fuel for my body. When I first went low carb, I still had endurance, but I had no reserve for short bursts, any incline during a ride resulted in screaming legs, being spit out the back of the group, or both. I haven't had that in a long time, I'm not sure which is the bigger factor-becoming fat adapted or weekly intervals building more muscle-but I'm enjoying the benefits.
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Started Keto 10 days ago, the most amazing thing is how good my blood sugar has gotten . Weight is coming off, blood sugar is in a great range, and I had no Keto Flu...I am happy so far .
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Simple stated, weight needs to always come as a ratio with height to be meaningful. Although we can make assumptions from the thread, the more information, the better.
On the other hand, the best single figure measurement would be body fat %. That figure can more generally stand all by itself, since its significant at any height.
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Sticking to it
I have started doing keto about 2 weeks ago and I want to get back on my bike this summer. What are some realistic goal I can stick to? 100 miles a month?
For example I normally start exercising really strong but fall off do to life and such.
How do I balance wanting to lose weight bad and not burn out and end up gaining more weight in the process?
For example I normally start exercising really strong but fall off do to life and such.
How do I balance wanting to lose weight bad and not burn out and end up gaining more weight in the process?
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Three months down the Keto path. My weight this morning was 314. My first goal of sub-300 pounds is in sight. I did not take any measurements when I started but I am having to buy new clothes!
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I started LCHF, ketoish, in February of 2016. I weighed 355 lbs at 5'7". I did it to cut my diabetes and lower my a1c. My intention was never to lose weight but guess what?
For reference my a1c was 7.1 with 3 500mg metformin 3 x a day.. As my bs dropped I dropped my meds until with 3 months I took none. Of course I'm not advocating this for anyone under a doctors care. It worked for me. My current a1c is 4.8 and has been under 5.2 for 2 1/2 years now.
Last year at this time I was thrilled to be at a weight where I could actually be back on a bike. I bought a Gary Fisher Mako from a friend and started riding it. Last May I rode 36.27 miles and weighted 295.7 lbs.
This May I sold the Mako and bought a Trek DS8.5. I rode 87 miles this May and this afternoon I weighed 275.7 lbs. after my ride. I guess that's progress.
My June goal is 100 miles and under 270. That's my keto story.
For reference my a1c was 7.1 with 3 500mg metformin 3 x a day.. As my bs dropped I dropped my meds until with 3 months I took none. Of course I'm not advocating this for anyone under a doctors care. It worked for me. My current a1c is 4.8 and has been under 5.2 for 2 1/2 years now.
Last year at this time I was thrilled to be at a weight where I could actually be back on a bike. I bought a Gary Fisher Mako from a friend and started riding it. Last May I rode 36.27 miles and weighted 295.7 lbs.
This May I sold the Mako and bought a Trek DS8.5. I rode 87 miles this May and this afternoon I weighed 275.7 lbs. after my ride. I guess that's progress.
My June goal is 100 miles and under 270. That's my keto story.
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I used a brand called Propel, think Gatorade owns them but they make electrolytes powder with no carbs which was great on keto and especially when I did get the keto flu.
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I have started doing keto about 2 weeks ago and I want to get back on my bike this summer. What are some realistic goal I can stick to? 100 miles a month?
For example I normally start exercising really strong but fall off do to life and such.
How do I balance wanting to lose weight bad and not burn out and end up gaining more weight in the process?
For example I normally start exercising really strong but fall off do to life and such.
How do I balance wanting to lose weight bad and not burn out and end up gaining more weight in the process?
As for on the bike, it's personal. I did a whole lot more than 100mi/month myself, but it depends on where you're at with fitness and what kind of riding you like to do. I like faster bunch riding and racing, so I do more miles in line with that. Some people just like to cruise around and "smell the roses" and that's fine too. Just do what works for you and try and get something consistent going. Remember that that exercise is every bit as good for the mind as it is for the body
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I have started doing keto about 2 weeks ago and I want to get back on my bike this summer. What are some realistic goal I can stick to? 100 miles a month?
For example I normally start exercising really strong but fall off do to life and such.
How do I balance wanting to lose weight bad and not burn out and end up gaining more weight in the process?
For example I normally start exercising really strong but fall off do to life and such.
How do I balance wanting to lose weight bad and not burn out and end up gaining more weight in the process?
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Keto is really for those who are very overweight or obese. Although it could work on anyone, its should only be used as a temporary measure to get the ball rolling when you have a big challenge on weight loss ahead of you.
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What are you basing this statement on? I have been on it for 8 months +. Is there a study or other information you can share?
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Third round of bloodwork since Keto/LCHF. Cholesterol is up a little over last time, but still in the "normal" range. Triglycerides are lower, LDL is higher. ALT and AST levels continue to fall as I repair my fatty liver by eating more fat.
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Nevertheless, Keto was suggested to work best for those with a much higher fat percentage. Besides, for one study that says one thing, I'm sure someone can find another opinion that says just the opposite. Or you could just choose to ignore it altogether.
Although anyone could use Keto, it works best for overweight and obese dieters. Once you get to around 12% and below the results from keto will become much less noticeable. Its an intro diet to jump-start the fat reduction process. It will work fine initially, but not indefinitely.
It is not a healthy long-term diet alternative since valuable nutrients are contained in carbohydrates, not to mention their capacity as an instant energy source. You're not going to sustain a high energy training interval on fats once you lose weight and need to transition to burning additional calories through HIIT. Still, there is no one-size-fits-all only fundamental which I've mentioned here.
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