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Old 03-03-24, 07:54 AM
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Any Guesses on the Value of this Lemon(d)?

This is a weird one. I assume it's a Lemond but it says "Lemon" and Johnson Siding on the top bar? Any ideas on value? Is it any good? Any red flags?



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Old 03-03-24, 09:20 AM
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Nice bike, in need of a thorough inspection and probably an overhaul. Check that the seatpost moves if you look at it. I do think 400 is steep, considering the apparent condition. I’d probably offer 200 max if I really wanted it, and budget for a rebuild (tires, cables, chain, etc.)

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Never seen a LeMond with fender eyelets
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LeMond with lugs? I thought steel LeMonds were TIG-welded with unicrown forks.
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Originally Posted by bargainguy
LeMond with lugs? I thought steel LeMonds were TIG-welded with unicrown forks.
Trek steel Lemonds had carbon fork legs w/ aluminum steerer.

Older Lemonds had lugged steel forks, Not sure if they ever had any flatcrown forks.

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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Trek steel Lemonds had carbon fork legs w/ aluminum steerer.

Older Lemonds had lugged steel forks, Not sure if they ever had any flatcrown forks.

You're right, I should have been more specific. I meant the 1996 and forward LeMonds back when they were a boutique brand of Trek, not the earlier Bilato-built bikes under his name.
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...Not sure why you'd think it's a Lemond.
Given the color and the graphics, I would guess it's a repainted something.

Might be a high quality something, but it's hard to tell from the photos.
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Yeah, looking again, it’s likely not a LeMond, so I rescind my earlier suggestion of $200 as an offer. Probably a decent frame but mish mash of parts, more like $50 or so as a project. My money’s on it being a Centurion
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It is most definitely not a Trek-built Lemond. I focus on the Trek-era Lemonds because (1) those are the ones I know something about (I have a 2000 Zurich) and (2) the font of the graphics is from that era. It most likely is not a pre-Trek Lemond either, but I am not positive about that.

The big give-away, as someone has noted, is the Trek-era Lemonds were TIG welded - no lugs. They also came with a CF fork, not a lugged steel fork, also as mentioned above..

The guy's marketing makes me think that he cannot be trusted. Someone made sure that the graphics do not say "Lemond" but the listing says it is a Lemond. The guy may be on the up-and-up, but the ad sure does not smell that way. I say: Hard pass, walk away.
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Originally Posted by bikingshearer
It is most definitely not a Trek-built Lemond. I focus on the Trek-era Lemonds because (1) those are the ones I know something about (I have a 2000 Zurich) and (2) the font of the graphics is from that era. It most likely is not a pre-Trek Lemond either, but I am not positive about that.

The big give-away, as someone has noted, is the Trek-era Lemonds were TIG welded - no lugs. They also came with a CF fork, not a lugged steel fork, also as mentioned above..

The guy's marketing makes me think that he cannot be trusted. Someone made sure that the graphics do not say "Lemond" but the listing says it is a Lemond. The guy may be on the up-and-up, but the ad sure does not smell that way. I say: Hard pass, walk away.
Probably pure ignorance on his part. Chattanooga has its share of cyclists to be sure, but 90% of the people selling bikes on FB don't know anything about what they are selling. Not even the size. I have to jump through hoops to get them to measure and sometimes they can't understand how to do it. Even after I tell them. Even after I send a diagram..
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Clueless seller with ridiculous price. My experience is I cannot talk him to reality, so I move on.
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Plenty of other bikes out there. I, too, believe this is NOT a Lemond.

I have several of them and LOVE THEM !!!!!!

Continue your search for a real LEMOND....you will not be disappointed !!!!!!
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Yeah the fender eyelets don't fit for sure. If a Billato built Lemond you should find a rear brake bridge like this.



And then on the underside of the BB will be a frame size stamp and under that will be some letters stamped to indicate the tubing type.

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Looks like a repainted Centurion Elite RS 1985 or Centurion Le Mans RS 1986.

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Ebay Centurion Lemans RS

A 1987 Centurion LeMans RS.

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Old 03-08-24, 12:28 PM
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Not sure it matters much I'm with other guys saying this bike is mid 80's Centurion that has had some different decals put on it, The paint frame details and parts seem to match the first year 83 Centurion.
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Not worth that price.
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