rpenmanparker 

There is nothing about sugar (sucrose) that is better than HFCS. Nothing! They are both just as good for you and also just as bad. When you induce a manufacturer to use sucrose instead of HFCS in a product you buy or choose a product on that basis, you are just bending over for a voluntary monetary reaming.

rpenmanparker 

Yes, but that is after the problem has developed, not to prevent it. Also it involves folks like children and the aged who may not be able to swallow a pill or tablet.

EnellCH

Not sure why people buy all that stuff. These days I go with 40% gatorade and 60% water as i start out riding. From there I refill with water only and eat small bags of potato chips (or bring a bag of small boiled potatoes) for electrolytes and carbs.

Silvercivic27

Im not answering your question. I'm answering the other guy's question. I've already given up on you

bikerjp

Incorrect.

What Is the Difference Between Sucrose, Glucose & Fructose? | Healthy Eating | SF Gate

bikerjp

Actually, there are differences. Read the about page and the information from Allen Lim. I wonder what they were drinking that was making them "sick to their stomachs"?

Skratch Labs | About Us, the history and story of Skratch Labs. | Skratch Labs

Btw, I have no connection to Scratch. Just that I've used it and like it.

gregf83 

Very few people get sick to their stomachs drinking gatorade as it's mostly sugar just like the Skratch Labs formula. If Skratch Labs works for you, that's great but don't assume that it's some miracle nutrition that's going to give you a performance boost relative to Gatorade.

Also, it's a little naive to assume that Alan Lim and Skratch aren't out there marketing just as hard as Gatorade. They're a business after all and would love to be as successful as Gatorade.

edit: And Gatorade has even more compelling stories regarding the research they conduct into optimizing performance: The science behind Gatorade. I believe A Jeukendrup has a far more impressive background in research than Alan Lim

Disclaimer: I don't use Gatorade. I use mostly water but if I do add anything to my bottles I use maltodextrin with some supermarket flavor crystals.

rpenmanparker 

The article you cited supports my contention. Glucose and fructose have different metabolic pathways. HFCS is a nearly equal mixture of the two. Sucrose becomes an equal mixture of the two nearly instantly in the stomach. After that the two sources of the two sugars behave exactly the same. The author didn't say one thing to contradict that.

Clipped_in

OP, I've been using these for the past 5 years or so with good results and none of the magnesium side effects you describe. If I feel any indications of muscle cramping I take 3 caps and they really have proven to fend the cramps off for me. I always carry them with me during the warmer months.


You can get them on Amazon for about 1/3 the cost of the Hammer Nutrition product.

canam73

I like a little bit of electrolyte deprivation during my rides. It makes the pizza somehow taste "refreshing". Or a big pub burger with a bloody mary. And then the pickles.

pdedes

Skratch designed their product to provide hydration as fast as possible through the gastric tract by carefully controlling the osmolality of the solution via sugars and citrates. In their recipe book, "Feed Zone Portables", skratch discloses the proportions of the various ingredients used in their product. You could diy it if you want.

rpenmanparker 

Thanks. Is it possible you might be able to post the sodium, potassium, and magnesium content per capsule? I would appreciate that as I can't find the information online.

Rich Gibson 

+1 I fill a 20 oz. camelback container 3/4 full with the blue gatorade and freeze it. Just before I go out I top it off with warm gatorade and stuff it in my bike holder. By the time I need to drink it's ready and cold. It will eventually completely unfreeze after about 2 hrs 15 min., the length of my normal ride. Flame me but i think there is too much obsessing over what amounts to miniscule differences between products. I like the flavor and it seems to fill my needs.

Rich

Darth Steele

ok great, it taste better, but look at the nutrional facta

Amount Per Serving: Calories 80, Calories from Fat 0, Total Fat 0g (0% DV), Saturated Fat 0g (0% DV), Trans Fat 0g, Cholesterol 0mg (0% DV), Sodium 360mg (15% DV), Potassium 40mg (1% DV), Total Carbohydrate 21g (7% DV), Fiber 0g (0% DV), Sugars 20g, Protein 0g, Vitamin A (0% DV), Vitamin C (35% DV), Calcium (6% DV), Iron (0% DV), Magnesium (10% DV). Percent Daily Values (DV) are based on a 2,000 calorie diet.

Basically it is the same as Gatorade
- I don't notice the Gatorade taste
- I buy the powered Gatorade to keep the cost down.

f4rrest

I'd rather not have antioxidants in an endurance drink mix. Gatorade is cleaner.

wallrat

I'm not a highly tuned athlete. I ride 30-40 miles mid week and a 100 mile ride once a week. It's not the TdF, I'm not racing crits, I'm not cat 1/2, I'm just pedaling around. I try not to think too much about what's in my "sports" drink. I drink Gatorade mainly because it's available at almost any store I frequent. It tastes different from water and sometimes I just like something to taste different than water. I suppose if I wanted to put more thought into it I'd hang out at my LOB and read labels but I'm just not that kinda guy. I usually buy a small bottle of Gatorade half way into a ride and throw it in a water bottle. As I drink it and refill it, I'll just water down the Gatorade. The other bottle will just have plain water. I try to keep one only with water in it so I can hose myself down if I'm too hot. Unless it's EXCESSIVELY hot I believe cramping is 80% due to fitness and not an electrolyte deficiency.

kelsodeez

smartwater contains electrolytes. i usually set out for the day with one bottle full of smartwater and a second bottle with half grape gatorade and half smartwater. that seems to be the winning combination for me, but everyone is different.

DXchulo

Back to the original topic, I'll drink vs. eat because on a long ride I'll reach a point where I get tired of eating food and have to get most calories in liquid form. Drink powder is light and easy to carry, too.

jkuper

Gatorade gives me heartburn. I like Scratch, the pineapple flavor the best.

Machka 

Gatorade gives me mouth sores. If I use a little bit of it, my mouth feels fuzzy and I start to develop a mild sore throat. If I use a lot of it, on a long ride, I get numerous horrible mouth sores, so bad it is hard to eat.


I have trouble thinking of Gatorade as "clean", as described by another poster.

10 Wheels

Love Gatorade, been a fan of it for over 12 years.

CharlyAlfaRomeo

One slice of raw tomato makes my best friend's mouth break out in sores, it's called an allergy.

Machka 

That is ... yes.



My reaction to gatorade may be an allergy ... but probably not.

bruin11

NutriBiotic Essential Electrolytes 100 caps.

Garfield Cat

It's not applicable in every application, but IV is the most efficient way to get electrolytes back into the system. Heat exhaustion leads to severe consequences if left unchecked. That's why anyone in exercise (or even non exercise ) mode can't ignore it. The better the science to get these vital signs, the better the rider will know how to react even before the body sends warning signals.