Old vs New Carbon Fiber Frames
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Old vs New Carbon Fiber Frames
So I happened across a pair of early carbon Treks. 2003 model 5500 and a 2004 model 5200. I know opinions on these probably vary wildly, however, what you think about these early carbon fiber Treks and their ride quality in comparison to newer carbon models? Just the frames… not the components.
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The 5200 and 5500 are the same frame only the components where different. Trek’s OCLV ‘120’ carbon for the 5000/5200/5599 while the 5900 was the super light weight frame with OCLV ‘110’ carbon.
Supposedly the stock 5500 is what the USPS team used if you believe the marketing copy. Nice bike back in the day with 9sp dura-ace. I think Trek guarantees all their CF OCLV frames for the life of the frame even if it is no longer the original owner.
Supposedly the stock 5500 is what the USPS team used if you believe the marketing copy. Nice bike back in the day with 9sp dura-ace. I think Trek guarantees all their CF OCLV frames for the life of the frame even if it is no longer the original owner.
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Here is my 1997 Trek 5500 custom painted in Trek's "Cloud 9" design. Back in those days Trek was a leader in carbon fiber bikes with their first OCLV frame. The only difference that I remember between the 5500 and the 5200 were the components. The 5000 had Shimano 105, the 5200 had Ultegra, and the 5500 had Dura-Ace. Carbon bikes today are stronger, stiffer, and lighter due to the advances in carbon fiber material weaving. My Trek 5500 is what I use on my indoor trainer. A solid bike, but too heavy compared to today's standard.
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Yes, I know the 5500 and 5200 frames were the same. Interesting comment about the warranty. So if one of the aluminum brake cable guides on the frame has some corrosion and there is some peeling paint in a 2 inch area surrounding it...I could get a new frame?
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I had a '00 5200 and it was stiff but comfortable and predictable. It was a bit heavy compared to other CF bikes I had later, but not significantly so. I got mine for $2500 ($3750 in current dollars) and it was a great off-the-peg race bike. Went from 5 to 3 in a couple of seasons on that bike.
But yes, the paint was terrible. It started to bubble and flake along the top tube where I could scrape off big chunks with a thumbnail. Don't think you can warranty it on the basis of the paint job. A frame boss might be a different story. But only if you were the original owner.
But yes, the paint was terrible. It started to bubble and flake along the top tube where I could scrape off big chunks with a thumbnail. Don't think you can warranty it on the basis of the paint job. A frame boss might be a different story. But only if you were the original owner.
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The 5200 and 5500 are the same frame only the components where different. Trek’s OCLV ‘120’ carbon for the 5000/5200/5599 while the 5900 was the super light weight frame with OCLV ‘110’ carbon.
Supposedly the stock 5500 is what the USPS team used if you believe the marketing copy. Nice bike back in the day with 9sp dura-ace. I think Trek guarantees all their CF OCLV frames for the life of the frame even if it is no longer the original owner.
Supposedly the stock 5500 is what the USPS team used if you believe the marketing copy. Nice bike back in the day with 9sp dura-ace. I think Trek guarantees all their CF OCLV frames for the life of the frame even if it is no longer the original owner.
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Incorrect, unless they had a different policy in the early 2000s - which seems unlikely.
From the Trek Website:
“Trek builds bikes to last and we stand behind every one that we bears our name. Just as the first Trek hand-welded over forty years ago in a red barn, our first full carbon frame is still under warranty. All OCLV Carbon bicycles come with a limited lifetime warranty, because we believe that more people riding bikes is in everybody’s best interest.”
My interpretation of these two page initially is older bikes will still have some limited coverage still, but not newer ones. My 2004 Trek catalog says “every OCLV comes with a limited lifetime warranty”, was this the older policy?
I don’t have direct experience with a Trek warranty claim
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billridesbikes , I'll eat my hat if that warranty applies to anyone but the original purchaser.
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I'm riding a 2nd hand 2002 5200 Triple 9 speed Ultegra model. I not only tore down the bike completely when I got it, I now have 2500 miles on the bike and the frame is in about as good as condition as one would want. I have to doubts that I'll be riding this for at least another 5-10 years. I don't know how this compares to newer models other than the bikes I pickup at the bike shop seem to be a little lighter than my bike. I don't know how much that helps you but that's my 2 cents.
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I'm riding a 2nd hand 2002 5200 Triple 9 speed Ultegra model. I not only tore down the bike completely when I got it, I now have 2500 miles on the bike and the frame is in about as good as condition as one would want. I have to doubts that I'll be riding this for at least another 5-10 years. I don't know how this compares to newer models other than the bikes I pickup at the bike shop seem to be a little lighter than my bike. I don't know how much that helps you but that's my 2 cents.
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billridesbikes , I'll eat my hat if that warranty applies to anyone but the original purchaser.
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Sorry replying to an old thread but I did buy a second hand Trek 5900 that developed the headset issue that was fairly common with this model. Trek first replaced the headset bearings (pressed and glued) directly into the headtube. It seemed to help for a short while then the binding started to happen again. They eventually replaced the proprietary (very odd sized) lower bearings and sleeved the lower race and a new standard size fork to go along with it. All work was done under warranty and no cost to me. I was a little bit shocked.
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Absolutely. I believe the fact that this was a known issue contributed to them fixing it under warranty. If it would have been a one off type problem it would have likely been a different story. I was just wanted Koyote to eat his hat. ; )
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Sometimes a dealer who sells a ton of the manufacturer's bikes can persuade the manufacturer to go a bit above and beyond for a warranty claim, even if the customer wasn't the original purchaser of the bike. In your case, it may be that Trek had determined that the design caused the problem, maybe because of a raft of warranty claims from their dealers, and had made the decision to do that fix for free for anyone regardless of whether the customer was the original owner.
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