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Old 02-20-18, 04:44 PM
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Campagnolo subtlety




Aside from condition can you see it?
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Left off the "P" on the left one

Actually, it seems the stamp is rotated a little off kilter on the left locknut.

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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude
Left off the "P" on the left one

Actually, it seems the stamp is rotated a little off kilter on the left locknut.

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No to both....
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My answer is no.

I am correct.
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The perspective makes it difficult to make out any real issues beyond the left stamping being off-center by a little bit (in relation to the flats). Flats don't match? Center is drilled off-center on the one on the right - or is it missing its threads? I'm just guessing out loud.

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Its staring right at you....
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Originally Posted by miamijim
Its staring right at you....
You know who really enjoys this game?
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Stamping dies are flat ended on left, v shaped on right.
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Originally Posted by robertorolfo
You know who really enjoys this game?
Don't get mad cuz you cant see it....

Originally Posted by FBOATSB
Stamping dies are flat ended on left, v shaped on right.
Yep. Fonts are different.
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Which one is the obvious forgery?
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Originally Posted by wgscott
Which one is the obvious forgery?
I have a small pile of lock nuts and there're differences ...I do have a match to the
right lock nut

I'll line them all up and post a pic tomorrow.
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I also was going to guess that "Cam" was a pun on the shape of the washer, but then decided it didn't faithfully translate into Italian.
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Old 02-20-18, 06:29 PM
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Before all accolades start pouring in, it helps to have a 23" flat screen zoomed up to 170% at all times.
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The dies are different. The fonts are different, especially the 7s. The one on the left appears in many respects a better piece of metalwork, and gets my vote as the real Campagnolo... or the better of two fakes.
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7.3 and 7-3? Italian or English? Or am I overanalyzing things once again.
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I think they are different size flats, i.e., one is 13mm the other 14 mm
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I'd toss it into the box of junk thingamajings
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Old 02-20-18, 09:10 PM
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Looks like normal year to year production variations.
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Originally Posted by Kontact
Looks like normal year to year production variations.
Kinda what I was thinking. Did Campy have more than one set of letter stamping dies in their factory (factories) in 1973?

My guess would be "probably." Including sets going back to the 1930s or so? Probably
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The real question is, does it help the ride quality???
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The one made with the flat-ended die has less material within the lettering so is lighter. A significant technical advancement.
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Originally Posted by miamijim



Aside from condition can you see it?
There's a fair difference in the stamping line-weight(?), the one on the left has fatter lettering.
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Old 02-21-18, 06:43 AM
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The one on the Right is lighter.
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Old 02-21-18, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Spaghetti Legs
I think they are different size flats, i.e., one is 13mm the other 14 mm
I think you're right
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Originally Posted by Spaghetti Legs
I think they are different size flats, i.e., one is 13mm the other 14 mm
I did a poor man's check with a ruler, they look pretty much the same. Maybe a slight parallax from some camera angle causes the appearance of different size flats. Since they are both marked "73" they should be the same year's production, I would think.

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