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Old 07-05-20, 01:52 PM
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Miyata 615 Terry style

This is a new one to me. Took a drive earlier today to pick it up. 24" front wheel. I had two 610s previously but never a 615. I am coming up dry with my search for 24" road tires. It is in quite good condition otherwise.

I think if I merely flip the DUI bars down I will triple my investment.









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Nutzy!!!

What's the seat tube length on that one?
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Nutzy!!!

What's the seat tube length on that one?
Looks to be a '88 model. If that is the case, the frame is called out in the '88 catalog as a 46cm.
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You can get tires from Terry, though they're not free nor close to it. I've seen them offered other places as well. Check the ISO diameter on the tire that's on the bike, though, as there are a bunch of different 24" sizes. Probably it's 520 mm, but it doesn't hurt to double check.

Back a couple years ago there was one of these Miyatas for sale in Dallas for $50 and I was considering buying it. At that time, there were several sources I found for the tires. A quick search today only turns up Terry.
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My daughter in law has a Centurion Terry knockoff. I've been fixing it up so I bought a spare Pasela tire and tube from terrybicycles dot com for her. I thought the prices were reasonable. The tires are hard enough to find so it seemed like a good idea to have a spare on hand.
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Originally Posted by Cougrrcj View Post
Looks to be a '88 model. If that is the case, the frame is called out in the '88 catalog as a 46cm.
I had an '82 610 with caliper brakes, suntour components and a 5 speed freewheel despite 126mm spacing and not a lot else to differentiate it as a touring bike. The '85 was a much more purpose built bike with front rack mounts and cantilevers but both '82 and '85 still used 27" tires. This 88 builds on that (no fork mounts) but has 700c rear and indexed shifting but still maintains the shimano light action of the '85.

A blast from the past https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...yata-610s.html
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Very cool!
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Originally Posted by Narhay View Post
I had an '82 610 with caliper brakes, suntour components and a 5 speed freewheel despite 126mm spacing and not a lot else to differentiate it as a touring bike. The '85 was a much more purpose built bike with front rack mounts and cantilevers but both '82 and '85 still used 27" tires. This 88 builds on that (no fork mounts) but has 700c rear and indexed shifting but still maintains the shimano light action of the '85.

A blast from the past https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...yata-610s.html
Hey, I recently bought an ‘85 (according to the previous owner) six ten, and it’s very much like you describe. It has 27” tires and cantilever brakes, as well as low-rider racks, but “only” two sets of bottle mounts. 🤔 I’ll have to get a bolt-on bottle cage, at some point, for where they’re missing on the seat tube. 🙄😉

I put Specialized Armadillo All Condition tires on (27” x 1 1/4”) for $45 each, but they’re probably worth it. That’s “roughly” the diameter of a 700x37, only a bigger circle. 🤔😉
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For anyone keeping score the Miyata 615 uses a 520 tire in the front. I just ordered a 700c x 25 rear and 24 x 1 (520) front Panaracer Paselas and spare 24" tube from Harris Cyclery. I also picked up a couple Sturmey Archer bits for my Raleigh Superbe while I was at it.

Should begin the teardown shortly.
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What size is the front tire? I recently overhauled a Nashhbar 'Terry-style' bike and the front was an off the wall iso 547.

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What size is the front tire? I recently overhauled a Nashhbar 'Terry-style' bike and the front was an off the wall iso 547.

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The existing tire had a 520 marking on it so that made it easy. I spent a bunch of time looking it up online searching through threads. Then I went outside for a minute and looked at the tire instead.
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Started the rebuild process on this. So far everything cleaned up and came apart very nicely​​​​. Unfortunately the original 3S bottom bracket was pooched so the search for the symmetrical 127 equivalent will begin.

Really amazed with how well the paint came up.







I also finally flipped the bars down.

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Is this the 60 or the 57, a little hard to tell somehow. Really looks like a 58 haha. As you saw in my other post, I'm also building one of these up and its the 57. Now, I am 5'"11 and I typically ride a 58, but some frames I really want only came in 22.5, so this is going to sort of me by testing ground as to whether when I drop money for those frames I go for the 22.5 or up to the 60.

Yours looks equally as immaculate as mine. This paint. holds up so well. Did you use a polishing compound on the chrome and metal bits? What polish/wax did you use on the frame?

Here's mine. I like how different this burgundy shows up under varying light.






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Nice work on yours. The burgundy really did age well.

I used mothers polish and finished with turtle wax. I cant take too much credit as even with a wet paper towel the paint started coming out nicely.

I am 6'2" and I've set my lower limit at 59cm, but even then with a longer stem and seatpost. You may be alright with the 22.5cm if you can get a taller stem in the end.
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When I redid my 88 that I sold to a member here, my spindle was toast too. I went to the co-op and was dissatisfied with the 3S. For some reason, the stock 3S was off. I eventually used a 3NN I believe. It was symmetric ant didn’t need the bit of extra on the NDS but gave a real nice chainline. Point being, don’t be certain the 3S is best. The 3N or 3P would also have been appropriate with the 88 that I did.

Milo is going through the 88 I redid, so perhaps he will chime in on it too.
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What size is the front tire? I recently overhauled a Nashhbar 'Terry-style' bike and the front was an off the wall iso 547.

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The St. Tropez I recently had come through had a 28-547 tire on it. The 28 was no longer made but I was able to pick up a 32-547 gumwall Kenda in stock locally at Ben's.
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I went the same route. Bike now wears 32s all around:




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I went the same route. Bike now wears 32s all around:




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The slightly larger wheel has better aesthetic proportions to me. Perhaps when mine is built and set up accordingly without the flipped bars it will look better in my eyes.
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When I redid my 88 that I sold to a member here, my spindle was toast too. I went to the co-op and was dissatisfied with the 3S. For some reason, the stock 3S was off. I eventually used a 3NN I believe. It was symmetric ant didn’t need the bit of extra on the NDS but gave a real nice chainline. Point being, don’t be certain the 3S is best. The 3N or 3P would also have been appropriate with the 88 that I did.

Milo is going through the 88 I redid, so perhaps he will chime in on it too.
That is good to know. I was able to dig up a 122.5mm UN70 bottom bracket from a box of parts which would have been the 3N equivalent. I may put a spacer on the drive side and see if that works ok. I'll keep you updated with how the chainline works out.
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That is good to know. I was able to dig up a 122.5mm UN70 bottom bracket from a box of parts which would have been the 3N equivalent. I may put a spacer on the drive side and see if that works ok. I'll keep you updated with how the chainline works out.
The FC-B124 crank inner chainring bolt heads barely do not clear the chainstay with a 122.5mm UN70 bottom bracket. I also managed to crack the thin aluminum flange on it during install so that probably didn't help.
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Minus the bottom bracket and waiting for the tires we are slowly getting there. I hate cleaning chainrings but it is now done.





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Wrapped this one up just now. New panaracers arrived and I was able to find a UN55 BB locally.















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I was able to find another orphan Miyata dustcap in my collection and it found a new home. Kind of neat years later it finds itself on another Miyata.

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